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European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 25. June | 145 comments (145 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Paging Nomad & nanne! (4.00 / 2)

With a curious request.

If you saw the Netherlands-Russia match: what was your reaction to Hiddink celebrating while his own country lost (doing the opposite of what Lukas Podolski or Hakan Yakin did)?
What was the reaction of public opinion in the Netherlands to the same? (Any one of these if you have info: friends, relatives, pundits, polls)?

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Wed Jun 25th, 2008 at 08:08:08 AM EST
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Re: Paging Nomad & nanne! (none / 1)

Hmm, I just recently realised it was Hiddink's South Korea that knocked Spain out of the 2002 world cup...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 25th, 2008 at 08:11:17 AM EST
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Heh (4.00 / 4)

Expats are probably not the best informed...

I didn't think anything weird of it during the match. Besides, I was just too zonked out by that second Russian goal to think anything else besides swear swords. He's a coach, it is his team, soccer is emotion - natural response.
I'm back in crazy writing country; I'm very antisocial at the moment and have no direct feed on it. NRC Handelsblad wrote on Sunday that Hiddink has received some negative commentary on his win from his private circles. At the bottom of the article is a poll result: Sampling 600 people, 98% said Hiddink should be proud on his result. Hiddink is now also the more favourite choice to succeed Van Basten. (Hiddink: 60%, Van Marwijk 40%) The grass is always greener...

In the meantime, the Russians are completely losing it. Guus Hiddink already has his own statue. Guuski!

by Nomad on Wed Jun 25th, 2008 at 08:47:00 AM EST
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Re: Heh (4.00 / 3)

I'm waiting for a Russia-Turkey final, so we can offer EU membership to the winner.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 25th, 2008 at 08:58:43 AM EST
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Re: Heh (4.00 / 3)

I fell off the chair when I read the news of the statue in Hungarian (it was from before the last match BTW); it was like one for poemless's Odds & Ends: it said "the guests of a sanatorium" [or is it nursing-home in English?] erected it. (It was not the guests but the director, and it wasn't the "mental institute" meaning of the word sanatorium.)

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Wed Jun 25th, 2008 at 09:06:54 AM EST
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Re: Paging Nomad & nanne! (none / 0)

A few relations of Hiddink apparently got some hostile remarks from a few idiots, which the press is making the most out of. What the Dutch people think of the matter is however overwhelmingly magnanimous (bottom of the NRC report):

nrc.nl - Sport-EK 2008 - Niet iedereen gunt Hiddink z'n succes		nrc.nl - Sport-Euro2008 - Not everyone is willing to grant Hiddink his success
Guus Hiddink mag van Nederland trots zijn op de Russische ploeg		The Dutch think Guus Hiddink should be allowed to be proud of the Russian team
Guus Hiddink mag trots zijn op de prestatie van zijn Russische team. Dat is de mening van 98 procent van de Nederlanders. Dit bleek uit een peiling van onderzoeksbureau Newcom, die zaterdag direct na afloop van de wedstrijd Nederland-Rusland werd gehouden onder ruim 600 mensen.		Guus Hiddink should be allowed to be proud of the performance of the Russian team. That is the opinion of 98% of the Dutch. This became apparent from a poll of the research bureau Newcom, which was held directly after the end of the Netherlands-Russia match among over 600 people.
Zes op de tien Nederlanders ziet Hiddink en niet Bert van Marwijk als ideale opvolger van vertrekkend bondscoach Marco van Basten. Ruim de helft van de ondervraagden hoopt dat de Russische bondscoach met zijn team de Europese titel verovert. Slechts drie op de vijftig Nederlanders gunnen de titel aan buurland Duitsland.		Six of ten Dutch people see Hiddink and not Bert van Marwijk as the ideal successor of leaving trainer Marco van Basten. Over half the interviewed people hope that the trainer of Russia wins the championship with his team. Only three in fifty Dutch [that would be 6% - Nanne] would grant it to neighbours Germany.

More than I can say for the attitude towards Germany...

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Jun 25th, 2008 at 09:01:51 AM EST
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Hilarious (none / 0)

Heh. I guess we managed a double post.

ButI indeed missed this:

Only three in fifty Dutch [that would be 6% - Nanne] would grant it to neighbours Germany.

ROFL!!!

by Nomad on Wed Jun 25th, 2008 at 09:24:55 AM EST
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Re: Hilarious (none / 1)

But I guess those 6% are only true to the Dutch penchant for provacateurism, which you once told about :-)

(On a more serious note, wasn't this an either-or question?)

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Wed Jun 25th, 2008 at 11:00:25 AM EST
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Re: Hilarious (none / 0)

No, it's a question about the tournament winner so it's an either-or-or-or question.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 25th, 2008 at 11:01:50 AM EST
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