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Why do you need to go off-road? And, if you can save oil just for off-roading that will probably be okay.

I'm not a Prius driver. I ride mass transit, bike and walk.

Want sustainability? Move to a dense urban area.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 11:35:55 AM EST
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My point was simply the Prius is very useful when roads are no longer well maintained.

Plus, in a sh*t-hit-the-fan scenario, there will be many blockades and obstacles on major roads, I suspect, as local 'tribes' pirate the wayward Prius drivers attempting to escape population centers.

by snowmizuh on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 11:45:46 AM EST
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Sorry, I meant the Prius is NOT very useful without well-maintained roads.
by snowmizuh on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 11:46:24 AM EST
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Bovine feces. Strong centralised states existed long before oil and coal became practical. And if they really, really need to, they can go back to existing that way. Not, perhaps, with the level and geographical spread of population we have today, but there are plenty of ways to reduce population short of civil war (non-civil war being one of the traditional favourites...).

You won't have armed tribes roaming the countryside looking to kill you and take your stuff. At worst, you'll have press-gangs roaming the countryside looking to ship you off to some hell-hole war of attrition in a country you never heard about and care even less about.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 03:14:24 PM EST
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Why would a Prius driver attempt to escape a population centre?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 05:27:02 PM EST
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I think soon you are going to need to worry more about survivability than sustainability.
by snowmizuh on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 11:49:00 AM EST
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So, what do you advocate, guns and hummers?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 12:01:03 PM EST
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Hummers will soon be irrelevant.  As will the Prius.

Natural selection will determine whether those who see the value of guns as tools or those who eschew them have better odds of survival.

by snowmizuh on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 12:17:30 PM EST
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"Hummers will soon be irrelevant.  As will the Prius."

Yes, they will both be replaced by the Chevy Volt!

Oh, no, wait; that would be yet another GM scam...  :-(

http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/archives/2008/06/at_last_behind.html#comments

by asdf on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 12:24:14 PM EST
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Natural selection will determine whether societies where people feel they're in it together or those where people feel they need to arm to defend from each other have better odds of survival.


When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 12:24:22 PM EST
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That is an optimistic assumption!  I just pray that the angels of our better nature come to the fore here.  Else, the Abyss yawns.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 at 01:59:10 PM EST
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[snowmizuh's Crystal Ball of Doom™ Technology]

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 07:21:00 AM EST
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