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Dont keep on truckin - Paul Krugman - Op-Ed Columnist - New York Times Blog

Everyone is upset at gas prices. But if you really want to see a radical cost shift, look at the real price of diesel fuel.

No wonder Walmart has suddenly discovered the virtues of local produce.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Fri Jul 4th, 2008 at 05:29:43 PM EST
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The Associated Press: Wal-Mart branches out into locally grown produce
Wal-Mart stores in Arizona now stock Grand Canyon sweet onions while aisles in New York display state-grown eggplant, as the world's largest retailer says it has become the nation's largest buyer of locally grown fruits and vegetables.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. plans to purchase and sell $400 million worth of produce grown by local farmers within its state stores this year, an effort the company says will only grow. Academic studies show buying locally cuts down on transportation mileage while also assuring customers of a product's providence amid mass recalls.

For example, the retail giant once only bought peaches from a few suppliers. Now, Wal-Mart buys 12 million pounds of peaches annually from farms in 18 different states, she said.

Because of that, the company estimates it saves about 100,000 gallons of diesel fuel a year and cuts away 672,000 food miles -- the distance produce travels from farm to a customer's plate. That adds up to $1.4 million in annual savings, Galberth said.

"It's one of the ways we've been able to keep costs down," Galberth said. "Our customers right now are struggling with tough economic times and looking to us to provide them with products that are at the quality they want and a price they can afford."



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Fri Jul 4th, 2008 at 05:32:25 PM EST
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$1.4 million is peanuts to Wal-Mart. Their bigger problem is that their trading model doesn't work in a high cost transport environment as they cannot dominate suppliers in the same way.

Judging by that graph, this only starting.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 08:01:53 AM EST
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From the graph above, it's only been a few months since diesel cost more than it has in the rememberable past, in real terms.

Which means that (i) there's a reasons people are beginning to notice these prices now, but (ii) we're still far away from "painful" prices. We've just moved from invisible to noticeable. painful will require a bit more.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Jul 4th, 2008 at 07:24:44 PM EST
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"A few months" is technically true, but only if you mean something like 30 months.
Since 83, it was always below 250, and 250 was last seen mid-2005. Even 300 (the short-lived peak of the early 80s) has been a given since 2007. Anyway, early 80s prices were noticeable -everyone was talking about cx in a car back then, it was a period of consumption reduction.

Still, that does not mean that even now we have a price that reaches the cost -there are so many externalities that the price is still too low. But it's been noticeable for a while now. What people seem to be slowly realising is that it's likely to stay noticeable.

I am impressed when I read that if we stop speculation, oil could come back to 100$ a barrel. When the approach of 100$ had been repeatedly explained away as a trader thing (with the first one to trade at 100$ claimed as probably staying the only one for many, many years -not because future ones would trade higher either).
I guess it's the same thing as military issues. The more you were wrong in the past, the more you are listened to, probably based on the assumption that everyone must be right the same percentage of the time in the long run and therefore you'd be more likely to be right if you've been wrong before.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 03:09:32 AM EST
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I agree. They are still far from the prices we pay in Europe. It's exactly what I said on dKos and it triggered violent comments! BTW, it would be interesting to calculate the difference in fuel prices between the US and Europe in purchasing power parity. It is probably even higher...

However, given the stagnation of the lowest quartiles' wages for several years now, many people in the US are living on a very tight budget and even a small increase in an important feature of their budget (like heating oil for people living in the northern parts of the country) is certainly very painful.

That's the reason why I agree with the idea of increasing taxes on oil products and, at the same time, subsidise people earning less than the median wage, to help them to change their lifestyle (investments in conservation measures, change in the transportation means...) and to support them through the period while the necessary public investments should be made (development of public transportation networks...).  

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 03:27:25 AM EST
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Purchasing power is an odd thing, no?

Shall we make a basket of goods and see if we can get something of a consensus? Too bad there isn't a LATomatoes.com like there is http://www.losangelesgasprices.com/ -

Things I always buy (in euros)
Bread - 1.20
Tomatoes, vine ripened - 1.50 /kilo
Leeks - 2.10 /kilo
Eggplant - 1.65 /kilo
Various sheep and goat cheeses - 10 /kilo
Various Fruits ~ 2.50-3.00 /kilo

Things bought regularly, but not weekly
Gazole - 1.35 /liter
Coffee at cafe - 1.10 /injection
Coffee American at cafe - 1.50 per cup (includes free internet)
Olive Oil (going down in price) - 4.50 per liter
5 cheap cigars - 3.20

2 liters of 40 weight - 20.00

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 08:17:21 AM EST
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Hi, siegestate! No wine in your list?

By the way, I will be in Sophia Antipolis on Wednesday for a conference. I am arriving on Tuesday around 20h00. Any chance we could have a drink together?

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 12:34:46 PM EST
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noticeable

For the first time, I paid over £50 to fill the tank of my little diesel yesterday.  

It's been close to £50 for a while.  But it's still the round numbers that take your breath away.

by Sassafras on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 05:20:43 AM EST
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Heh.  I put $50 in the tank of my little pickup for the first time a couple of weeks ago.  I noticed it as some kind of milestone, then smiled ruefully to myself for noticing.  They're just numbers you know.  Rumsfeld told us so.

Now where are we going and what's with the handbasket?
by budr on Sat Jul 5th, 2008 at 10:20:55 AM EST
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