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I guess that is the difference between the optimists and the pessimists. When Kofi Annan starts talking about needing the help of multinational corporations to solve world food problems because governments can't (not won't) do it, then I think the optimists need to bolster their case with practical plans.

The reason governments aren't working for the benefit of the people is because they are not sufficiently democratic. This is something I've written about many times. We are in a situation which parallels the first Gilded Age. That ended in a world war and massive depression.

I've already posted a diary about the possibility that we are in the early stages of WWIII:
Has WWIII Already Started? so I won't repeat my arguments.

What I haven't seen from anyone who dislikes my negative outlook are discussions of my points.

  1. Overpopulation
  2. Migration to cities
  3. Lack of democratic governments
  4. Uncontrolled (uncontrollable?) multi-national corporations
  5. Resource shortages

The young should be optimistic, but they also should be realistic. Let's hear some solutions.

Just for reference there is an ongoing debate among those specializing in economic development as to what course to take. On one side are the critics like Joseph Stiglitz, William Easterly and Paul Collier and on the other are the optimists like Dani Rodrik and Jeffrey Sachs. Not only can't they agree on what steps to take in the future they can't even agree on what worked or failed to work in the past and why. Unlike us they are all professional economists who specialize in this area. I think this proves that the problems are daunting and not getting the kind of innovative ideas needed. If you are interested in this area they all have books out and Dani Rodrik has a blog as well.

Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 10:01:07 AM EST
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I don't want to come off as totally negative, so here's my latest little diary on a hopeful sign from the economic community:

First crack in the wall

Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 10:57:41 AM EST
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... economic growth. This is a point that is made in the negative in most Economic Principles texts ... by listing what is required for economic growth, and financial capital is not there.

This is, indeed, a point that was made much more clearly by Institutionalists working in the field of Development Economics in the 1950's and 1960's.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 11:47:33 AM EST
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Negative for negative, I'll say this: if governments (and multilateral governmental/non-governmental orgs) can't do it, neither most certainly can corporations with their narrow focus on profit. Can anyone imagine the ruthless ethics of Monsanto doing anybody any good? And its vision of agriculture being sustainable?

There is an alternative, as I sketched out above, and it involves empowering peasant farmers so they can make a living (provide food staples, earn money) from the land while not destroying it. Half the world's active population are farmers, most of them small peasants. These people have skills and locally-adapted knowledge that can be harnessed to provide much more food than is currently the case in many poorer countries. This would keep population in the country areas and help halt the flight to the towns. (Another of your points I responded to).

Of course, if you step back and say, we haven't got democratic governments so we're screwed anyway... You know, OK, so let's all go hang ourselves.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 12:04:15 PM EST
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Look, I'm not trying to pick a fight, I agree with your premise, but it's not enough.

For example you say "involves empowering peasant farmers " and all I say is how?

What's the plan? We know what the goals are. Where are the implementation plans?

Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 12:45:53 PM EST
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Forgive me if I haven't got implementation plans right here to set out. (It wasn't really what the diary was about anyway). But I will come back to this, and develop the topic over time.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 01:09:36 PM EST
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Don't build new nuclear plants within 100m of sea level.

I overheard a conversation about oil prices on the train the other day that sums up the current American zeitgeist, I think. I might write about it.

On second thought, I'm current reading The Road by Cormack McCarthy, so maybe I'll refrain from comment for a while.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 05:01:46 AM EST
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