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I don't know much about this "taboo against open debate" of which you speak. I'm tempted to ask you to elaborate this idea that the main obstacle to good governance in the Middle East is the taboo against open debate in a diary...

Now, as far as I was aware, Sistani does not agree with Khomeini's doctrine on the rule of the Jurisprudents, and that appears to be a position that he shared with his predecessors. He is not interested in leading a political movement (unlike Sadr), and he has been consistent in demanding more democratic (even secular liberal) government practices such as when he insisted (and gained that as a concession from the US) that the Iraqi Constitution be approved in referendum.

Other than that, I'm out of my depth.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 18th, 2008 at 07:01:05 AM EST
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The "taboo against open debate" is a shorthand for a preference for conspiracy theories, the more elaborate the better.  If two explanations for an incident (say, a power failure) are offered, one straightforward and one involving elaborate machinations that violate Occam's Razor and discount coincidences and common mistakes at all turns, the elaborate conspiracy will tend to be more popular and more easily discussed.  This is of course a stereotype, but it is real enough to matter in the middle east.

A few examples of many:


  1. The 2004 Xmas earthquake near Aceh, allegedly caused by CIA underground nuclear device.

  2. Top 10 Middle Eastern Conspiracy Theories

  3. The art of Middle Eastern conspiracy theories

  4. Undersea cables.

From what I've read, Iraqi domestic politics are just as byzantine.  It becomes so pervasive, people actually do engage in conspiracies preemptivly, since they're convinced everyone around them must also be conspiring.  This creates a vicious cycle of conspiracies that takes on a reality all its own.

Why not deploy some of Europe's soft power to debunk the more fantastic of these, with long-term goal of breaking the vicious cycle, while avoiding controversial issues like Colonialism, Palestine and Geopolitics in general?

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by John in Michigan USA on Wed Jun 18th, 2008 at 01:01:57 PM EST
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Maybe one day this comment of yours will be thrown up as evidence that the EU is engaged in a conspiracy to cover up American and Israeli conspiracies in the Middle East...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 18th, 2008 at 01:15:29 PM EST
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I don't think debunking is what's needed: for a start, who the hell is going to listen to Europe debunking conspiracies when it's obvious to anyone that Europe is involved in half of them.

You seem to misunderstand the reason that people create conspiracy theories.

To take an example, there is no obvious rational reason for the invasion of Iraq, and people like simple stories, so they make up the one that seems simplest to them: Iraq was invaded so the US could take the oil (with a side order of mendacity by whoever you happen not to like).

That the Iraqi invasion was the result of a collection of forces acting in their own perceive short-term interests in such a way that it became possible for the Bush regime to invade Iraq without any great overarching conspiracy is more complicated to explain than the "simple" conspiracies. On top of that, an analysis of the reasons for the Iraq war would be less than flattering to an awful lot of players in Iraq, the US, the Middle East and Europe. I'm not sure that explaining that Iraq was, in part, invaded because it meant that arms manufacturers would make more profits is going to have  a positive effect on the Iraqi zeitgeist.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jun 18th, 2008 at 01:24:30 PM EST
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Haven't we been doing that for a bit too long already?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Jun 19th, 2008 at 03:39:09 AM EST
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No, we decided to stop pretending to care and joine the Dark Side in 2006.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 19th, 2008 at 05:18:40 AM EST
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