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"French" is still an insult, apparently.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 at 11:01:17 AM EST
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And there is no peak oil.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 at 01:11:33 PM EST
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Not only that, but doubting ever so slightly that "Iraq is an independent country since 2004" or merely noting that "Iraq is in a civil war" seems to be grounds for being called a "douchebag" and being accused of "neo-colonialist, patriarchial and aggresively phallagocentric (sic) disdain for the sovereigny of 3rd world countries".

Welcome to the French club, Mig.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 at 01:18:57 PM EST
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Avec plaisir.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 at 01:49:59 PM EST
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Migeru,

I apologize on behalf of my American compatriots for their rude response to your thoughtful piece. Joerg's blog has been hijacked by the worst kind of extremists who respond to any criticism of the US with hate. I have pretty much stopped commenting there after they kept calling Barack Obama a "communist Muslim".

Thankfully, they represent only a fringe group: the Bushist dead-enders.

Dialog International

by DowneastDem (david.vickrey (at) post.harvard.edu) on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 at 04:26:02 PM EST
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Who are the American counterparts of European Atlanticists? Those commenters at Atlantic Review have nothing but contempt for Europe.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 at 04:32:09 PM EST
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Well, you can find some at Steve Clemon's blog, The Washington Note (www.thewashingtonnote.com).

Dialog International
by DowneastDem (david.vickrey (at) post.harvard.edu) on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 at 05:09:37 PM EST
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I'm shocked, he actually engages with the Iranians!

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 at 05:44:34 PM EST
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Mig, now you know why we call them Yahoos.  Smearing with shit is what the Yahoos do.  But we didn't invent it.  Swift described it well 18th century England.  However, Americans may claim place of pride in the number and vociferousness of our Yahoos.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Jun 9th, 2008 at 01:47:47 AM EST
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Swift was actually Dean of Christ Church Caτhedral in Dublin which gave him ample opportunity to observe Yahoos in action.  Come to think of it, the Christ Church restoration fund should tap Yahoo for come contributions in the light of them ripping off the name...

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Mon Jun 9th, 2008 at 01:59:55 PM EST
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Come to think of it, the Christ Church restoration fund should tap Yahoo for come contributions in the light of them ripping off the name.

Sounds like a plan.  Some of the corporate officers might be willing to donate.  It would be nifty to obtain an official grant of right to use, but does Christ Church have any claim on Swift's literary legacy?  Might not really matter. I once suggested to the principal of a local elementary school in L.A. that was located about a mile from JBL headquarters that he ask Sid Harmon to donate a system.  His wife, Jane Harmon, is a US Congresswoman.  JBL came through.  Not only donated the materials but performed the installation. If you are local, suggest it to someone involved with fund raising for the restoration.  Can't hurt.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Jun 9th, 2008 at 02:40:14 PM EST
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Silly me - its St. Patrick's Cathedral - a few hundred yards down the road that Swift was Dean of.  He is also associated with St. Patrick's Hospital.

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Mon Jun 9th, 2008 at 04:12:51 PM EST
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EURIKA!

I FOUND IT, FRANK.

What the church could provide in return for substantial donations is a blessing of the Yahoos, an exorcism of the Microsoft demons and a Te Deum.  They certainly should be willing to perform the blessing.

I couldn't tell from their web sites if they are Catholic or Anglican.  I would have thought Swift to have been Anglican, given the era and the domination of Ireland by England.  The only hint was that the Holy See would not let good Catholics enter as late as the 1970s. This shouldn't matter, as the liturgies are very similar.  Do you know what happened with St. Patrick's and Christ Church after Irish independence?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Jun 9th, 2008 at 05:14:41 PM EST
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They are both still in active use as Church of Ireland (= Anglican) Cathedrals a few hundred yards apart close to the current and historic centre of Dublin.  The first public performance of Handel's Messiah was in a hall close by in 1742.   Both are very beautiful buildings.


"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Mon Jun 9th, 2008 at 06:15:44 PM EST
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This from the guy who cites documented racists favorably, makes lame excuses about vetting, but won't give anyone he disagrees with the same benefit of the doubt or the opportunity to clarify.  Mostly, what we get from David is instant condemnation and politically correct hypocrisy.  I've tried reaching out to him, but he persists in his knee-jerk assumptions.  His attitude is a positive barrier to international dialog.

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by John in Michigan USA on Wed Jun 18th, 2008 at 04:53:38 AM EST
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