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Do you have evidence for that contention? I don't think the extreme end of the AKP has overwhelming support, though I think a lot of Turkish voters don't support the more extreme interpretations of secularism either.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 08:57:27 AM EST
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But the 'extreme interpretations of secularism' (the same way many people in France interpret it) are the ones, the constitutional court in Turkey is enforcing.
Everybody voting for the AKP is clearly an enemy of the constitution. Why is a party with a 2/3 majority in the parliament suing its own country on the European court of human rights as it happened some years ago?
The Turkish constitution is clearly not democratic - see the non-control over the military, which is using its power to promote specific parties. Do you really think Turks don't want to have a democracy? (Yes, there are a lot of Turks, who don't want, but that are the secularists, not the AKP people)

Most things I have ever heard of that the AKP has asked for in terms of religious freedom are legal in Germany. As far as I know, we are not an islamic theocracy.

Gemach, gemach

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 09:26:24 AM EST
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I believe Mark Steyn and friends would disagree: Germany is, after all, at the heart of Eurabia.

I don't doubt that you'd get a lot of support for a change to the Turkish constitution from voters.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 09:37:54 AM EST
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Most things I have ever heard of that the AKP has asked for in terms of religious freedom are legal in Germany. As far as I know, we are not an islamic theocracy.

Just you wait, by 2020 Muslims will form a majority and make everyone where a burqa. I read it in the Wall Street Journal so it must be true.

by MarekNYC on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 09:48:22 AM EST
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pwned. Damn.
by MarekNYC on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 09:48:45 AM EST
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Martin:
But the 'extreme interpretations of secularism' (the same way many people in France interpret it) are the ones, the constitutional court in Turkey is enforcing.
Um, being asked to enforce.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 10:24:59 AM EST
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The question if wearing a headscarf in universities (by the students) was already before decided.

Gemach, gemach
by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 10:45:07 AM EST
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Everybody voting for the AKP is clearly an enemy of the constitution.

That's just patently untrue, and an absurd conclusion.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 12:54:53 PM EST
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