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Kurdish autonomy is not listed as a threat to the foundations of the Turkish polity, as far as I know.

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by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 09:43:47 AM EST
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But the State apparatus acts as if it were.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 10:23:27 AM EST
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See Martin's first comment. Would Turkey's integration lower the ability of the Military to influence politics?

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by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 11:03:11 AM EST
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As long as it is felt that if has that ability it probably cannot join the EU.

The guest post by Andrew Arato on Juan Cole's blog explains the issue very well (my emphasis).

Informed Comment: Arato: The Turkish Constitutional Crisis and the Road Beyond

The makers of the Constitution of 1982 established a dual, semi authoritarian or semi democratic state, with important reserves of power outside the constitution. Starting with the elections of 1983, and then constitutional changes already in 1987 Turgut Özal managed to expand the democratic dimension, leading to a great reform process from 1995 to 2004, that in several rounds that involved the consensual participation of all parliamentary political parties, managed to significantly but by no means completely constitutionalize political powers in the system. Today people stress several military and indeed judicial interventions in this period, that we can see only managed to slow down the rate of change, exclude parties that would reappear in new forms and under new names, but nevertheless confirming the existence of important political centers that could continue to act outside all democratic accountability and constitutional restraints. From 2000-2001 especially, the Turkish parties and governments were under increasing European pressure to eliminate these authoritarian residues, and it was then that the idea of a gradual amendment of 1982 Constitution was replaced by that of a new "civil" or "civilian" Consitutiton. But though the point was not entirely clear either to the European critics or the Turkish participants, unless Turkey had a revolution against the Constitution of 1982, even an entirely new civilian constitution would have to be introduced as a large scale amendment of the still valid basic law.
The (philosophical) issue is one of rule of law understood in a legal-positivist sense as primacy of the Constitution. In so far as the Turkish constitution continues to be reformed in the direction of bringing both the Constitutional Court and the Military under the Constitution's authority, Turkey will be progressing towards EU membership.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 11:13:51 AM EST
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Andrew Arato's guest post on Informed Comment again (my emphasis):

Informed Comment: Arato: The Turkish Constitutional Crisis and the Road Beyond

The Constitution of 1982 has unchangeable provisions that the parliament cannot alter even with 100% of the vote having to do with the republican, secular and unitary character of the state. (Articles 1, 2,3 made unchangeable by Art. 4).


When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 11:19:23 AM EST
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Informed Comment: Arato: The Turkish Constitutional Crisis and the Road Beyond
Furthermore even if the Constitutional Court cannot gain much legitimacy in defending the unchangeable provisions of an originally authoritarian Constitution, the legality of its jurisdiction provides it with a vantage point to bring attention to the equally weak legitimacy of a power seeking to alter this constitution on the bases of mere majority will. Both legitimacies are questionable, but the legal position of the Court will remain stronger unless the amendment rule itself were amended by parliament, an act that the Court could again find unconstitutional...because implicitly challenging the unchangeable articles.
This is like a game of Nomic, I love it.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 11:22:22 AM EST
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Well Kurdish parties have been banned or attempted to be banned repeatedly in Turkey most recently right now.

Let me point out here, that in most areas imaginable, the AKP has been more democratic, more secular (under pressure) and more europeanist than the Kemalist parties - by far.  To even debate this as if it should be an issue in a democratic society, is pointless. Erdogan's party is vastly less religious fundamentalist than extremist christian parties in the Netherlands, say.

It's an irony of history perhaps, but the road to Turkey's democratization passes through the islamic party...

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 12:02:40 PM EST
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