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I was logging out to see what comment threads look like to new users, and found to my surprise that yesterday's OT did not display the first sub-thread that started with comment N° 1 by Jérôme. I got the same result in Firefox or Internet Explorer.

Can anyone else reproduce this?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 12:24:26 PM EST
I get the same.

how odd.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 12:33:36 PM EST
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Very. The comments haven't been editorialised or hidden, they display normally when I'm logged in.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 12:37:51 PM EST
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same here,

losing the first 19 comments, on firefox and opera, giving

Drew J Jones:

"No bailout for Fannie and Freddie on the horizon," sez Paulson.

Fannie, Freddie and the markets in general promptly tank.

Freddie: 4.23 (-47%)
Fannie: 7.40 (-44%)

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

as the first visible comment if i'm not logged in


Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 12:48:10 PM EST
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Same here.  I installed someone's update last night before closing down.  Could  this be a glitch?

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 01:21:49 PM EST
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I haven't installed the update yet. Anyway, it only works with Firefox. And this problem occurs with other browsers.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 01:27:38 PM EST
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That is reassuring.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 01:31:50 PM EST
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It's got to be a server problem.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 02:11:49 PM EST
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Are you sure the comment is not displayed, or just winds up showing further down the thread like it did when I logged out and looked at it ?

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 01:49:11 PM EST
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Aagh of course

<checks>

yep its just ordering them differently.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 02:13:57 PM EST
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Yes, I checked and it was nowhere. Now I'll check again.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 02:49:45 PM EST
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OK, it is there <duh!> But I can see no logical order to the way comments are displayed.

The first top-level comments are something like #8, #36, #39... The time-stamp doesn't order them, it's not oldest top or newest top. The order doesn't come from ratings either.

That's what I wanted to look at: how does a new user see a comment thread?

To be as real a new user as possible, I logged out, left the site, came back. And did the same using IE. The result is identical.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 03:03:29 PM EST
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Maybe number of replies is taken into account?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 03:18:41 PM EST
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The order seems random from that point of view.

Do you know what the default setting is for comment thread display, or where it's defined?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 03:35:25 PM EST
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Problem later settled by changing one of the default comment display settings so that ratings are ignored.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 13th, 2008 at 03:17:45 AM EST
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Under IE it's always been like that. The only thing I've noticed is that higher rated comments proceed to the front, but unrated child comments weigh them down.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 12th, 2008 at 05:18:48 PM EST
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Do you mean as a new or unlogged-in user? Or when you're logged in?

As a member, you can change comments display settings on your user settings page.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 13th, 2008 at 03:15:14 AM EST
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