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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:09:14 PM EST
Pope apologizes for Church sex abuse | International | Reuters

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict on Saturday apologized directly for the first time for sexual abuse of minors by Catholic clergy, but victims groups in Australia said they wanted action and not words.

The pope, making some of his most explicit comments on the sexual abuse scandal that has rocked the Church in several countries, also said unequivocally that those responsible should be brought to justice.

Benedict made a last-minute addition to his prepared homily in St. Mary's Cathedral, adding one powerful and personal sentence -- using the word "I" three times -- the Vatican had hoped would satisfy victims groups.

"Indeed, I am deeply sorry for the pain and suffering the victims have endured and I assure them that as their pastor I too share in their suffering," he said.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:32:32 PM EST
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"Pope Benedict on Saturday apologized... said those responsible should be brought to justice"

He's resigning? He's firing a whole pile of cardinals and bishops? He's selling Vatican real estate to pay off lawsuits?

by asdf on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 12:26:41 AM EST
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He's selling Vatican real estate to pay off lawsuits?

Church property is simply sold by one hand to the other. If a diocese is in sore need of liquidity, the Jesuits, for example, will buy the property.

It would be an ideal set-up to launder and recycle money. The Church might consider it as a golden opportunity.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 07:08:35 PM EST
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resigning?

no, lecturing us sinners about consumerism in his ferragamo pumps!

sheez

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 01:29:42 AM EST
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CNN: Pope: 'Spiritual desert' growing across world

"In so many of our societies, side by side with material prosperity, a spiritual desert is spreading: an interior emptiness, an unnamed fear, a quiet sense of despair," the pontiff said.

We had a long summer evening discussion last night on the patio. Most of it was about how you could get people to replace religious beliefs with a simple moral code of neighbourliness that is at the core of most organized religions. There were no conclusions, but we did come up with a cracking concept for a TV series that could never be made.


You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 05:32:26 AM EST
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yup, substitute religion with practical common sense.

being an asshole brings bad luck.

fries with that?

ketchup?

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 06:24:19 AM EST
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You are surely not promoting superstition as a replacement? ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 06:31:47 AM EST
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that's the best part of diabloguing with you sven, i never quite know whether i'm serious or not! fun to play that edge...

people were superstitious before organising religions, methinks.

so i'm reaching out to them using a pre-religious wavelength.

older than god, older than that 'ole-time' religion even, lol

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 08:20:07 AM EST
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I dunno about substitute. Common sense and an innate sense of communal right and wrong seems to be the basis of all presciptions for living, even those codified into religions.

It's when the religious impulse becomes subverted to the purposes of political control that a lot of the nastier stuff comes out.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 07:16:03 AM EST
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an unnamed fear

Naming your fears makes them better?  say calling them something like "the devil"?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 06:52:25 AM EST
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Probably just product placement...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 07:00:26 AM EST
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While we're at it, they say the Devil has all the best tunes. How does that work for people who like church music?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 07:04:23 AM EST
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'Modern' faith music sells very well in Finland. Sort of the Osmonds meet Sir Cliff with tambourines and Marshalls. I know a few session sinners who move happily between gigs for pop and gigs for the lord.

There are two pukka recording studios that specialize in above the belt, below the neck MOR with joyful lyrics.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 08:48:51 AM EST
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I take it the spelling error is intentional? ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 09:54:15 AM EST
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All my errors are inintentional ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 10:00:15 AM EST
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 a Session sinner sounds an auwfuly polite euphemism.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 10:12:23 AM EST
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Being your error de jour? ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 11:30:38 AM EST
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He could order his minions to deliver up the child buggeres to the authorities as soon as they hear about it, but he won't cos he still thinks the Vatican is a state outside of national jurisdictions.

So it's still a paedophile's life within the church, safe from justice or exposure.

Just don't be gay with grown-ups tho', that's a sin. Buggering kids isn't mentioned in the bible, so it's okay.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:45:41 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Cern lab goes 'colder than space'

A vast physics experiment built in a tunnel below the French-Swiss border is fast becoming one of the coolest places in the Universe.

The Large Hadron Collider is entering the final stages of being lowered to a temperature of 1.9 Kelvin (-271C; -456F) - colder than deep space.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:37:13 PM EST
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A month from now it's all over. The End Of The World Is Nigh!!!

:-)

by asdf on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 12:30:30 AM EST
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how many petro-slaves will it take to crank that mofo up?

should we all put our passports in a safe place?

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 01:31:29 AM EST
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That reminds me of Madrid's tunnel driller, named "la gallardona" after the mayor, Gallardón, who is bent on pharaonic (?) works for the missed 2012 and the hopefully-not 2016 Olympics, here.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 02:23:42 PM EST
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BBC SPORT | Football | My Club | Leyton Orient | Day to remember for Orient fans

The hype surrounding football these days makes heroes of players all too easily. But the Leyton Orient team of 1914/15 were exactly that.

Clapton Orient, as they were then known, were the first Football League team to enlist en masse to serve King and country. All 41 players and staff signed up to fight, a move that inspired other teams to follow suit.

And it was to the battlefields of northern France that they were posted. There they found themselves embroiled in one of the bloodiest military operations of all time.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:48:57 PM EST
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I don't find volunteering to fight for Imperial Stupidities particularly heroic. Tragic. Desperately desperately sad. Yes. But heroic ? I cannot find it in my heart to praise such futile waste.

Anymore than Tillman was hero. Patsies, stooges, believers of falshood, victims of a societal three-card trick perpetrated by the rich against the poor. Is selfless sacrifice for such base motives heroic ?

The issue with militaries is that they believe the troops at their disposal are to be disposed of. We now have the sneering disdain of cheney and bush that, because these soldiers volunteered, their lives can be wasted for political advantage. Their honest patriotism, abused by modern Goerrings with the univeral sneer;-

the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

.., is simply a tool in such hands. Heroism, bravery are moot, once they are inuniform, they are there to die and will be sent to places where they will die, uselessly and forgotten, to puff up a politician's chest for a minute or two.

Remember The Battle Disgrace of Pork Chop Hill

The Battle of Pork Chop Hill comprises a pair of related Korean War infantry fights during the spring and summer of 1953. These were fought while the U.S. and the Communist Chinese and Koreans negotiated an armistice. In the U.S., they were controversial because of the many soldiers killed for terrain of no strategic or tactical value.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 05:02:31 AM EST
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Hydrogen Cars Will Need Multi-Billion Dollar Jumpstart, Experts Warn

WASHINGTON, DC, July 18, 2008 (ENS) - It will take massive subsidies from the U.S. government to make hydrogen fuel cell vehicles a significant part of the nation's transportation future, according to a National Research Council report released Thursday. The study finds that even under a best-case scenario only about two million hydrogen fuel cell vehicles will be on American roads by 2020, less than one percent of the nation's estimated total number of cars and trucks.

Achieving that goal would require the government to pump at least $55 billion in subsidies over the next 15 years to make hydrogen vehicles cost competitive with conventional cars and trucks, the report concluded. Current government spending has equaled some $879 million since 2004.

But the chair of the committee that wrote the report said the suggested government funding should be put in perspective with other subsidies.

If current funding and policies continue, the federal subsidy for corn-based ethanol over the same time period is on pace to reach $160 billion, said Mike Ramage, a former vice president for research and development at Exxon Mobil and chair of the 17-member panel.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 04:57:41 PM EST
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Pennsylvania Bets on Biofuels
HARRISBURG, Pennsylvania, July 18, 2008 (ENS) - Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell signed two pieces of legislation last week that will help spur the development of homegrown biofuels in Pennsylvania and establish new requirements that every gallon of gasoline and diesel fuel contain a percentage of ethanol and biodiesel.

"Pennsylvanians are struggling with higher fuels costs," said Governor Rendell. "Record-high fuel prices are straining family budgets and pinching the bottom lines of our businesses. We need to reduce our dependence on foreign oil and keep our energy dollars in Pennsylvania, to invest in our economy and create jobs."

The biofuel percentages established under the new law will go into effect once in-state production reaches certain levels.

The requirements include what the governor believes to be the nation's first state-specific mandate for cellulosic ethanol, which is made from non-food plant materials.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 05:00:31 PM EST
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At present the most pressing need in the US is to find subsidies that provide votes in return.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 08:28:46 PM EST
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how many weeks in iraq of 'demand destruction' would pay for that?

less blood on the walls, too

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 06:31:41 AM EST
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Scientists Close In On Source Of X-Rays In Lightning
University of Florida and Florida Institute of Technology engineering researchers have narrowed the search for the source of X-rays emitted by lightning, a feat that could one day help predict where lightning will strike.

"From a practical point of view, if we are going to ever be able to predict when and where lightning will strike, we need to first understand how lightning moves from one place to the other," said Joseph Dwyer, a professor in the department of physics and space sciences at FIT. "At present, we do not have a good handle on this. X-rays are giving us a close-up view of what is happening inside the lightning as it moves."

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"Nobody understands how lightning makes X-rays," said Martin Uman, a professor of electrical and computer engineering. "Despite reaching temperatures five times hotter than the surface of the sun, the temperature of lightning is still thousands of times too cold to account for the X-rays observed."

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 05:04:54 PM EST
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Well, i'm sure these guys know way more than me, but there's plenty enough energy for effects at atomic level, even if the heat isn't.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 05:17:11 AM EST
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We have a major political crisis in Belgium with no end in sight....This was the headline news of the day:

deredactie.be - English - Belgian woman survives black bear attack

Sat 19/07/08 16:29 (UPDATE video) - A Belgian woman has survived an attack by a black bear in Banff National Park, in the Rocky Mountains. The incident is big news in Canada, as biologists say the incident is "highly unusual".

23-year-old Charisse D'hamers has been liging and working in the Rocky Mountains since last year. On Wednesday, she went jogging near Lake Louise when she was surprised by a black bear.



The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 06:41:04 PM EST
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We had a black bear break into an electronics store here in Colorado Springs a couple of days ago. They routinely go through trash cans behind fancy downtown loft buildings and in suburban back yards...

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/07/16/vosot.co.bear.circuit.city.kktv?iref=videosearch

by asdf on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 12:39:02 AM EST
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I faced some opposition recently by daring to broach the subject of sociobiology.

There is some new evidence to support my views just in:

Telegraph: Male lust is blind


You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 05:45:13 AM EST
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Notwithstanding that bodies, minds and souls all seem to have different triggering mechanisms, some interconnected and all with the ability to change, I sure hope that this experiment was done better than it was described in this newspaper write-up.

The way that the Telegraph writer described it, all they have proved is that being alone in a room for 15 minutes of Suduku raises testosterone levels, with the possible link of a female who had been in the room for 5 minutes and who left the room 15 minutes earlier...and, she talked to me~!~!! that is going to get a rise out of most college boys, no?

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 07:33:47 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Moonies founder 'hurt in crash'
Moonies founder 'hurt in crash'
Rev Sun Myung Moon's helicopter reportedly hit bad weather

The founder of the controversial Unification Church, better known as the Moonies, has been hurt in a helicopter crash in South Korea, reports say.

Rev Sun Myung Moon, 88, was among several people on the aircraft when it made an emergency landing at Gapyeong, 40km (25 miles) east of Seoul.

News agencies quoted officials as saying Rev Moon's injuries were slight.

The casualties were taken to Cheongshim Hospital, which is affiliated to the Church, a hospital official said.



~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 06:34:14 AM EST
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