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Nikkei's up slightly.  The others are down about 1%.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 12:51:20 AM EST
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FTSE is up. Happy times.

12 month pound vs euro:

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 05:28:36 AM EST
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Yeah, the pound has really been getting hammered.  Y'all may wind up with the only currency more worthless than ours before all's said and done.

I still need to start my "Countdown to Yen-Dollar Parity" series one of these days.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 05:59:49 AM EST
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We could have joined the Euro. But no - the little Englanders were determined to go it alone at the expense of the greasy feckless foreigners.

Well done us.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 06:12:06 AM EST
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now with this crises?  And if it becomes a matter of discourse, can the UK even meet the economic requirements to join the eurozone?

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"
by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 06:40:11 AM EST
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looking at that graph we're about .25 away from thinking its a good idea.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 06:54:51 AM EST
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Not going to happen.

It's politics and self-image. Although the mid-level business community is for joining, the angry Daily Mail proles aren't, and the feckless rich aren't. With the Tories practically guaranteed a win in 2010, there's no pressure at all to join - they're certainly not going to propose it because their base would skin them alive.

It's more important to most of the population to cultivate a narcissistic image of specialness than it is to deal with reality. So we're going to sail through 1:1, it's going to be the ECB's fault because of something or other, and we're going to carry on down to the floor - wherever that is.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 07:06:43 AM EST
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It's that little French fucker -- Trichet fault.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 07:16:04 AM EST
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Yes while those reputable financial giants are capable of skimming half a percent off every transaction with Europe, I'm sure there will be no pressure on their part to join.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 08:03:13 AM EST
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Yes, but the Continentals would have put the Eiffel Tower on your notes and made you start driving on the correct side of the road.  A line must be drawn.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 06:54:18 AM EST
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Some of them can't even speak English. [shudder]
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 07:00:13 AM EST
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True, but it's not like they're all Polish plumbers.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 07:14:17 AM EST
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The problem is that it will take 2 years from the word 'go' for the Pound to join the Euro because it is not even in the exchange-rate mechanism, while I think Denmark can join the Euro immediately if they so wish.

When I went to the LibDem conference last September there was a Very Serious Person™ from The City in the audience at the European Policy session who pointed out that if there were a serious crisis "which the current hiccup isn't" (paraphrased: I felt like slapping the guy to wake him up) then the UK should join the Euro.


When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 04:52:36 AM EST
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Denmark is in phase 2 of the EMU. Sweden is - I think - in phase I, but the natives will have to correct me on that. Whether that means that we can join immediately (assuming that we fulfill the requirements; which AFAIK we do), I don't know.

But given that we de facto are already in the eurozone (we're mutually pegged so tight to the Bundesbank ECB that the only difference is a trip or two to the local FOREX anyway...) I suspect we could join as soon as we could get the new notes and coins in circulation.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 11:48:39 AM EST
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