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Is it worse to live in a world in which a few hundred people are tortured, to death or otherwise?

Or one in which the lack of order means that there are major power wars which lead to the death of tens of millions?

Are you saying rendering or torturing a few hundred people is going to stop a hegemonic war on its tracks?

Are you saying that the actual rendering and torturing that took place was to prevent the death of tens of millions and not alongside the unleashing of a war that has killed millions and risks escalating to tens of millions if we're not careful, and in addition to the gutting of the international system which is now weakened to the point that if a war to kill tens of millions were imminent it could do nothing to prevent it?

The problem with "realists" is that they live in a Platonic universe of ticking bomb scenarios and world wars averted by targeted torture and assassination.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 05:04:43 AM EST
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The problem with "realists" is that they live in a Platonic universe of ticking bomb scenarios and world wars averted by targeted torture and assassination.

 Some background reading How anyone can say they are a realist and yet support the ticking bomb scenario makes my mind boggle.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 06:06:26 AM EST
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