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And how many were killed in the Congo in the conflict that lasted from the late 90s to the start of this decade?

If a US military strike against the government of the countries that intervened could have stopped the escalation of the killing, would it have been justified because it would have saved lives?

Or condemned as American aggression against poor African states?

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 08:24:34 AM EST
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That's a very  large If.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 08:29:34 AM EST
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If you want to promote democracy, you can start by yanking the rug out under the Saudi royal family. And start leaning on Mubarak and Olmert. And pull the CIA out of Colombia (along with whatever other goons you have running around there).

Claims that any military intervention is supposed to promote democracy and human rights are going to ring hollow - extremely hollow - if there's still so much lower-hanging fruit around in the democracy promotion department. It'd look much like shooting a burglar and claiming that you did it because you're "concerned about your safety" - when you haven't even bothered to install a lock on your door in the first place. Not credible.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 08:47:46 AM EST
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The notion that any large scale military intervention is to promote freedom and democracy for others is in itself delusional.  After all it wouldn't take much to depose that goon Mugabe, but no one is going to bother.  Nations go to war with other nations when their own perceived vital national interests are at stake.  The US is not going to put its own troops in harms way just to get rid of some tinpot dictator if there is nothing in it for them.  The problem for the US is that it has outsourced the definition of its "vital national interests" to a small coterie of corporate interests.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Mon Jul 14th, 2008 at 08:59:17 AM EST
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Did the US intervention in Iraq stop the escalation of some killing spree? I don't get the comparison.

And I don't agree with the counterfactual either. A few air strikes here and there are not going to stop a few million people ready to kill each other with machetes and most foreign combatants in Congo came from neighbouring countries, on foot (so to speak).

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 05:00:09 AM EST
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