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Citigroup Regrets Bond Trades in Europe
By HEATHER TIMMONS
September 15, 2004

Citigroup told employees on Tuesday that it regretted executing a $13.5 billion bond trade that has raised the ire of rival traders in Europe and led to an investigation by regulators in Britain.

In an memorandum to all 40,000 employees of Citigroup's global corporate and investment bank, the chief executive for global capital markets, Thomas G. Maheras, said the trade was an "innovative transaction, that sought to access the liquidity in the European bond markets," but that it "did not meet our standards."

As a result, "we regret having executed this transaction," he said.

The bond sale, executed Aug. 2, caused widespread concern in Europe's markets. Citigroup sold 11 billion euros ($13.5 billion) of European government debt within minutes, mainly through electronic trades, then bought some of it back at lower prices less than an hour later, rival traders say.

Though the trades were not illegal, they angered other bond houses, which said the bank violated an unspoken agreement not to flood the market to drive down prices.

Citigroup "failed to fully consider its impact on our clients, other market participants and our regulators," Mr. Maheras said in the memo...


~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 03:09:34 AM EST
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Wow~! kinda shows how desperate they are for some profits, no?

I think it is time to pull my savings from there. I always felt a little bad going into the belly of the beast, but it was the only simple international choice I could figure out when I started living abroad. And all the reasons that I thought they would be better have not proved correct in practice.

I just haven't figured a safe place to put cash though. Not that I have that much. Just enough that if a bank goes bust, I'd rather be in line outside than online...kinda no where...or not be in that jam at all.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 04:47:48 AM EST
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it's just not cricket, old chap...

i hear ya, i have vivid memories of my parents having their italian bank accounts frozen during the 60's.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 07:38:19 AM EST
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I am considering US Treasury Inflation Protected Bonds.  Granted they exclude food and energy, where we have already had lots of inflation, but if I can get them with one year terms it would protect me from some of the coming inflation.  Any thoughts?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 09:07:09 AM EST
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I have head that currently yields are low - but if your inflation expectation (or inflation exposure) exceeds that of the market, they should be a good investment.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 09:30:49 AM EST
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Just checked.  Not low, negative 1-2! and 5yrs is the shortest term.  They can be sold, but the price varies. Should interest rates rise due to inflation, the par value will tank.  Of course if the Fed should drop the rate to 1% or 0% the par would go up, but these are dollar bonds and the dollar would further tank. Five years is a long time to bet on energy inflation remaining low.  Seems I would have to credit our societies with far more collective intelligence than they  have demonstrated in the last 40 years.  Euro denominated government bonds?  Are they even available in inflation protected flavors? What ever looks safe to someone in my position has probably already been moved into by so many others that it is no longer a value.  I am probably doomed to take a hit no matter what I do.  I suspect I will have plenty of company, and not just in the US.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 03:35:53 PM EST
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Buy Stratocasters!

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 05:48:36 PM EST
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yeah, they sound great with a treadle-powered amp!

they come with fuzz tone

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 07:35:37 PM EST
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They make great paddles...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 02:36:20 AM EST
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lol!

placed high in a tree they can work as antennas for VPN, or pick up radio waves from neptune-

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 06:15:29 AM EST
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Not to mention getting pizzas out of ovens, beach cricket, and removing cats from the tops of cupboards.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 10:52:12 AM EST
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Euro denominated government bonds?  Are they even available in inflation protected flavors?

Yes, these do exist, and there are American brokers that offer them..

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 03:20:28 AM EST
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