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Where is everyone?  Bit quiet around here...

You know, I was looking at these "Anglo Disease" diaries, and while I don't question the problem, I've been wondering what "Anglo" means to those using the term.  Wikipedia notes that it's not a technical term.  In America, it's most often used to denote ethnicity.  I think I've just decided I get the heebeejeebees when I hear and ethnic descriptor paired with the word "disease," esp. when it's not talking about an actual physical ailment particular to a certain gene pool.  I don't know how to elaborate without upsetting people who, I think, have the right intentions, or take away from the substance of the argument.  It's just the label.  It's starting to creep me out.  Has anyone else had these thoughts?  Probably not...  I suspect it's just not an ethnically-charged word over there.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 02:39:55 PM EST
My personal interpretation is that it relates to the 'Anglosphere' as pictured by conservative commentators on both sides of the Atlantic (though Anglo disease mostly has to do with the UK, and the USA, and perhaps Ireland -- not Canada, Australia or NZ). It's also a riff off Dutch disease. Dutch is of course also an ethnicity, but that does not come to mind. What's meant to come to mind is a picture of economic malaise related to a specific set of imbalances (in the Dutch case, resource endowment, in the US/UK case, skewed development creating a bloated financial services sector).
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 02:55:33 PM EST
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Yes, it refers to people of English descent here.

Obviously Jerome and others mean it to refer to all we children of the British Empire -- or at least the largely-white ones -- and our Glorious Motherland.

Even though I think the plurality of Americans have their roots in Germany and Ireland rather than England.

And even though the Angles were German.

So it's the Germans' fault when you really think about it.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 02:56:39 PM EST
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yup, i've had a bit o' that too, poemless. that fact that it's coined by a french critic doesn't really help in that regard either...

but you gotta call a spade a spade sometimes, and rack my brain as i do, (well sometimes!), i can't find a better moniker yet, and meanwhile this one gains traction, and conveys the message once unpacked, which i read to be more concern (ok, panic), that this horrible phenomenon is metastising, wherever its provenance.

call it fred, it still sucks-

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 04:37:08 PM EST
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I think it refers to those countries, led by the U.S. and the U.K. that embrace the neo-liberal economic approach which involves less regulation of business, and in general a dog eat dog approach to the functioning of their societies. This approach until recently had been rejected by France, Germany and most other European countries.
So, if you;re about to lose your health coverage, because you've lost your job, that's part of the Anglo disease. A very nasty disease by the way.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 04:42:33 PM EST
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So, if you;re about to lose your health coverage, because you've lost your job, that's part of the Anglo disease. A very nasty disease by the way.

very, very nasty...evil in fact, terminal. no known cure except vigorous and extended blogging sessions to bail out tradmed lies and keep the mental transom above the waves.

crapaganda is the froth, faustian corruption the beer.

(cf Blair, Tony) oh the irony of having hamas guarding him from scary brown people he just may have p-o'd.

into the breach, tone! don't forget your crusader flag, you have the pope's blessing now! save the heathens!

</italian overblown hysteria>

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 05:02:20 PM EST
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I'm pretty clear about what it is about, what the term is describing.

It's the label I find problematic.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 05:17:56 PM EST
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It's the label I find problematic.

Well, yes, but "WASP Disease" didn't have the same ring to it.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 07:38:45 PM EST
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We've had this debate before... it's like when people said there was no such thing as the "anglo-saxon press".

If Jerome didn't want to get his writing noticed he'd use a neutral academic term such as financialisation - but as Nanne points out, it's more a case of stressing that financialisation has primarily weakened the UK and the US.

You could also call it the Ronnie and Maggie disease.

Hey, here's a diary title: "Fannie and Freddie, children of Ronnie and Maggie".

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 04:32:19 AM EST
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... of Cadel Evans in yellow.

Bloody hell, I forgot how hard Australian celebrations are on a person ... at least, the following day.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 05:18:18 PM EST
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