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Incidentally, for an additional viewpoint bolstering Mr. Schnittger's pespective, check out Roger Cohen's New York Times editorial, The Muck of the Irish.  The same stew of guilt-mongering and finger-wagging, but I remain strangely unconvinced...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/opinion/19cohen.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

by Gregory Grene (Gregory [at] prodigals [dot] com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 02:29:58 PM EST
What a stretch, comparing the two elections of GWB to the Irish rejection of Lisbon. Cohen writes a polished column, sure. The contents are much less coherent than the language. As Barack Obama winds his way on his imperial progress through Europe, I remind EU readers and Europeans in general that my people are not what they seem. I know my people, they never fail not to disappoint. Such high expectations cannot be met.
by Quentin on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 10:13:21 AM EST
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Don't worry - we expect to be disappointed.  He is, after all running to be POTUS not POTEU, and doing so on a centrist, bringing Republican's and Democrats together ticket. (That's equivalent to bringing the neo-fasists and tORIES/cHRISTIAN dEMOCRATS/conservatives together in Europe).  However he has himself noted that Reagan changed the trajectory of the US whereas Nixon and Clinton did not.  So perhaps he is setting a higher standard for himself.  Whatever.  He's better than Bush Lite.

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 10:33:11 AM EST
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It it rather unclear what Cohen wants to say in this column, he starts out with the Lisbon Treaty and Ireland and then discusses EU membership of Turkey. Those issues are only peripheral related.

Enlargement is what started this whole mess, therefore what Europe really needs is...more enlargement! Brilliant.

by rz on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 11:18:46 AM EST
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Some in the US see the EU as a mechanism for anchoring Turkey in the Western as opposed to the Islamic camp.  Not sure most Europeans feel the same way about it.  Personally I don't think it's likely Turkey will join even with Lisbon, but there is no way it an happy without Lisbon.

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 11:31:32 AM EST
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