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Wrong. The opioidergic system exists without any society at all. It is part of who you are. Alcohol is just one of many things that happens to stimulate it. Her baby's face will stimulate the mother's opioidergic system such that she becomes an 'addict'. Cute fluffy animals, chocolate, chilli, jogging beyond the pain barrier, and sex all do the same to some extent.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 09:56:22 AM EST
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I'm not talking about the opiodergic system. I'm talking about alcoholism itself, which can't exist without society.

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 02:24:52 PM EST
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Horses can become alcoholics. I AM talking about the opioidergic system.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 02:30:31 PM EST
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I am not talking about the opiodergic system. Are you talking to yourself ? Horses can't become alcoholic without a system to produce alcohol regularly, and indeed a way to name the phenomenon.

The opiodergic system doesn't describe behaviour any more than gravity does. Stimulating the opiodergic system provokes a wish to repeat the activity. Gravity provokes a need to put a roof over our heads to protect from stuff falling, to put things down rather than up. That's not describing behaviour, that's describing conditions for behaviour.

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 02:51:17 PM EST
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