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The problem with the game theory piece is mostly the piece itself, I'd say. Very poor science reporting.

There are two key errors: first, talking about the incorporation of elements related to social science in a mathematical model as if it were entirely unproblematic (not requiring substantial interpretation and discussion). Second, imputing radical novelty to an approach that has many antecedents. Just from my limited overview of policy analysis and political economy, related analyses have been around since the early 1990s at the latest. See e.g. Rules, Games and Common Pool Resources.

The importance of the study is also wildly overstated. I at least don't see concrete policy advice on how to use the findings to come to well-functioning global cooperation. It's just a study saying 'people may be more willing to cooperate than our previous model predicted when we incorporate factors x and y'.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 08:12:46 AM EST
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I agree, I just left it out there like pepper for the bloodhounds.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 10:00:39 AM EST
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You are very successful in stirring up controversy ;-)
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 01:31:24 PM EST
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Well I think we need to shake up the thinking on this, rather than reverting to the Nietzschean protocols ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 02:21:15 PM EST
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It's just a study saying 'people may be more willing to cooperate than our previous model predicted when we incorporate factors x and y'.

If we look from Taleb's "Black Swan" perspective of theoretical vs empirical fallacies, the selfishness imperative is more a logical ("Platonic") conclusion of a few simplistic assumptions than an empirical truth. Simplest evolutionary models indeed predict that the world must be robustly selfish, non-altruistic - and selective evidence may "confirm" that. But examples of nasty bugs and free-riding cuckoos form a rather isolated set of malicious tricks employed by relatively few species. Nasty viruses are pretty overwhelmed by endosymbiotic bacteria; similarly, the "common good" role of insects is probably much larger than their bugging.

If evolution must make lineages so selfish, why "tragedy of commons" situations are relatively unnoticeable in the nature?! But oops... if you run yourself into a tragedy of commons, you are already a looser, apparently.

Neo-darwinists are wrong assuming that all survival is differential, that is, that doing just better than others beats anything. (Oh, how this fallacy is affecting banking, politics and much else today). Genetically, our greed can only be so much different. We have genes both for greedy and altruistic behavior or feelings. What inclination are switched on, depends on what we learned or experienced in early ages, and on cultural circumstances. What is really in human nature is the tendency to copy or follow each other - so most repeated ideologies and opinions do matter.

The force of selfishness is not to be denied - but firstly, it's effects are not immediate: "naive" altruists do not die off immediately. On the other hand, massive greed is powerful enough to eat itself in a matter of few generations. But as evolution is a game of many thousands of generations, those episodes of greed "discoveries" do their equilibrium punctuations, but eventually they are in effect handled, adopted and rerun with ever growing sophistication.

Dealing with greedy fools is a complicated problem - but solutions, be they partial, "temporarily" and complicated, do evolve. Why not?

by das monde on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 at 10:14:42 PM EST
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