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I often hear anglo used as a term for white people in general.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 12:42:35 PM EST
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I think that is its current standard, slangy meaning in the US, mostly used to differentiate between recent immigrants from Mexico and other Latin American countries, and the "white" majority.  I only ever hear it used in the context of race relations IRL.  Which is what has lead me down this path.  Because this economic issue, which I'm in agreement with Jerome about, isn't really a matter of race.  And in America, French heritage is considered "White."  So that's when I started looking into what the term "Anglo" is supposed to mean.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 12:51:22 PM EST
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And I also think that this angle works. Not all poor people are black or otherwise non-Anglo, and not all Anglos are outside poverty, but the rising inequality built into the current system certainly hits the non-Anglos a lot more than the Anglos.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 12:54:48 PM EST
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Absolutely.  No one's going to argue that fact.  But then, I don't know what your point is.  Because a few lines up you are saying US and UK are Anglo, but French and German are not.  You are making the argument that these countries are distinguished from each other by their economics.  Which is fine, but these countries are no longer defined by race.  Now you are making the argument that within one country, races are distinguished from each other by their economic welfare.  Again, true.  But true of most countries too, I think.  Dark skinned people generally get the short end of the stick regardless the economic system they live in.  So ... what makes this "disease" "Anglo?"  

I'm not just arguing for the sake of argument.  I really am wanting to understand what you're talking about when YOU say "Anglo."  To me it sounds either ethnically distinct, when it isn't actually an ethnic matter, or like some outdated slang to refer to part of the world which you still see as implicitly connected, but whose inhabitants don't necessarily agree with you on that matter.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 01:39:23 PM EST
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From wiki :
An ethnic group is a group of human beings whose members identify with each other, usually on the basis of a presumed common genealogy or ancestry.[1] Ethnic identity is also marked by the recognition from others of a group's distinctiveness[2] and by common cultural, linguistic, religious, behavioral or biological traits.[1][3]

French and German ancestry in the US means to be anglo, but while they may share same common genome pool, their culture is pretty different nowadays. And the focus of the anglo disease (propensity to take debt is at least one key point) is kind of a cultural habit.
And while Afro-Americans often claim to have a different subculture than the American mainstream culture, I have never heard, that German, French, English, or Italian ancestry is taken as something giving enough input to form an own subculture (Irish is debatable).

But as I understand anglo-disease it is anyhow a country disease (because influenced largely by regulatory framework, overvaluation of real estate), not a person disease.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 10:11:51 AM EST
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