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Analyzing this further, Grinder and Bandler stated that there were a few common traits expert communicators - whether top therapists, top executives or top salespeople - all seemed to share:

  • Everything they did in their work, was pro-active (rather than reactive), directed moment to moment by well-formed outcomes rather than formalized fixed beliefs

  • They were exceedingly flexible in approach and refused to be tied down to using their skills in any one fixed way of thinking or working

  • They were extremely aware moment by moment, of the non-verbal feedback (unconscious communication and metaphor) they were getting, and responded to it - usually in kind rather than by analyzing it

  • They enjoyed the challenges of difficult ("resistant") clients, seeing them as a chance to learn rather than an intractable "problem"

  • They respected the client as someone doing the best they knew how (rather than judging them as "broken" or "working")

  • They had certain common skills and things they were aware of and noticed, that were intuitively "wired in"

  • They worked with precision, purpose, and skill

  • They kept trying different approaches until they learned enough about the structure holding a problem in place to change it.

And these principles and presuppositions:

  • Behind every behavior there is a positive intention. Even a seemingly negative thought or behavior has a positive function at some level or in some other context.

  • A person is not his or her behaviour

  • There is no failure, only feedback.

  • The meaning of the communication is the response it produces, not the intended communication.

  • One cannot not communicate: Every behaviour is a kind of communication. Because behaviour does not have a counterpart (there is no anti-behaviour), it is not possible not to communicate.

  • Choice is better than no choice. An idea from cybernetics that holds the most flexible element in a system will have the most influence or choice in that system.

  • People already have all the internal resources they need to succeed.

  • Multiple descriptions are better than one.

  • Meet people in their own unique map of the world This is based on the generalisation that one individual's reality is not the same as any other's and is linked to the principle that the map is not the territory.

But don't let me stop your reading... ;-)


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by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 10:13:26 AM EST
Wow - not a bad summation of leadership/communication  skills, but what has this got to do with Keynes?  My "map" doesn't have many connections between macro economic theory and individual leadership!

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 11:28:47 AM EST
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I was continuing with the Rorschach theme ;-)

You see in it what you want to see in it.

But those quotes are lifted from the wikipedia entry on NLP - neurolinguistic programming. I was looking for some clues to how to 'change the frame' from different sources. The quotes stood out as I read them, because whatever one might think of NLP, they contained a lot of insight for me. And, as you say, the first batch are a pretty good description of the capabilities needed for leadership, communication and cooperation.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 05:28:02 PM EST
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Very good.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 05:14:13 AM EST
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Bandler is a known crazy, and I don't think this is in any way an honest list.

Ironically it doesn't communicate what 'success' is. Is someone who's earning $100 million a year successful by definition? Mozart died in poverty. So did Van Gogh. Were they succesful or not? Did they have these skills?

And so on.

In fact, like the rest of NLP, it's rather a glib and superficial list of attributes - perfect for sunny-side-up management consultancy meetings where the aim is a bit of light challenge followed by ego fluffing and corporate cheerleading, but perhaps not quite the deep insight it appears to be.

In the real world the defining characteristic of 'successful' executives seems to be pig-headed stupidity and an asteroid-sized sense of entitlement. There's the odd exception who can demonstrate a track record of strategic foresight, but it's much easier to find execs barreling through their careers with an almost total lack of self-awareness, empathy for others, or connection to the real world, defining their 'success' in short-term gains and newspaper column inches, and 'communication' as absolute and total control over the corporate message.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 07:45:05 AM EST
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Not my experience in Finland ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 09:55:00 AM EST
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I'm with TBG on this one.  

Perhaps there's a reason the UK and US MBAs are notoriously bad managers?

by ATinNM on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 10:52:47 AM EST
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We have mostly diploma engineers, not MBAs

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 11:15:34 AM EST
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In any case, those quotes applied to all leadership, communication and cooperation, not just in business.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 12:01:38 PM EST
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They kept trying different approaches until they learned enough about the structure holding a problem in place to change it.

Ultimately it seems to get down to changing changing peoples' perceptions, including their self perceptions.  We all want to feel good about ourselves.  Bringing to consciousness contradictions between strongly held values and/or between values, identity and conduct and between conduct and outcomes can be a means of accomplishing that.  I have seen one such technique described as "inflicting wounds on the narcissistic ego". Reality is currently performing that task massively.  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 at 01:46:43 PM EST
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