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My phone has just beeped 4 times in the last 5 minutes like it's getting a text, but nothing has come through. Can phones get hacked ? Not that there's anything on my phone to worry about (I don't even save phone numbers) but it's a bit puzzling.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 04:49:52 PM EST
You should be aware of stuff like this....

gulp.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 05:12:40 PM EST
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this

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 05:15:21 PM EST
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Ah, but I'm not getting any record of having got a call. Just a ring ring and then [empty]

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 05:25:29 PM EST
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There is something not widely publicized that may be of interest, if it is true. Certain chips used in mobiles (but not Nokia) have the capability of being  switched on remotely. Theoretically, that could turn them into listening devices. I was told this by someone who would know, but who knows agendas these days.

What is true, is that operators have the ability to selectively shut down access to whole ranges of subscribers. So in the event of a catastrophe, only certain mobiles (emergency services, government etc) will be allowed access.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 05:36:52 PM EST
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I'd always assumed that anyway. One of the failures identified during 7/7 was that emergency services expected to be able to use mobile phones for co-ordination. They completely failed to anticipate that networks would be swamped by people making calls to reassure, or seek information from others.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 05:47:40 PM EST
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What makes Nokia so special? I havent heard of them being exempt from that "Feature"

(If that turns on you dont get a ringtone, last thing you want is to make your victim suspicious of their phone, just the battery willl run down unusually quickly)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 06:14:34 PM EST
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Uh, as someone who uses a Nokia phone, and whose battery has been running down suspiciously quickly, I would be curious about that as well.

/paranoid

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 08:25:35 PM EST
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I'd  take the battery out if you're going to talk to anyone and you wouldn't want "Them" to listen in

</tinfoil hat>

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 03:35:51 PM EST
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The surveillance technique came to light in an opinion published this week by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He ruled that the "roving bug" was legal because federal wiretapping law is broad enough to permit eavesdropping even of conversations that take place near a suspect's cell phone.

Kaplan's opinion said that the eavesdropping technique "functioned whether the phone was powered on or off." Some handsets can't be fully powered down without removing the battery; for instance, some Nokia models will wake up when turned off if an alarm is set.

Linkage from 18 months ago

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 03:40:40 PM EST
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Easy to do.  

Install a listening circuit powered by a trickle charge from the battery or a capacitor.  When it gets the 'go' signal a burst of power through the On/Off circuit.  The power-on jingle, display, keypad lights, etc., would have to be inhibited, no big deal; in fact, done with a wee bit of thought it would only require one transistor to inhibit all those features.

Of course it's a Bet-the-Company move.  If the news ever leaked that such a thing was done customers would run away.

by ATinNM on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 11:04:02 PM EST
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Call Dr Who, aliens have absorbed your diary in gooey fashion.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 05:16:11 PM EST
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I know, I know. I shouldn't mess with the hackers...But I found an interesting glitch in Scoop - maybe.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 at 05:29:51 PM EST
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