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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 02:59:14 PM EST
Obama Meets With Afghan President Karzai

KABUL, Afghanistan -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says the situation in Afghanistan is "precarious" and "urgent."

In an interview broadcast Sunday during his first trip to Afghanistan, Obama said the U.S. needs to start planning now to send in more troops. He has called for an additional one to two brigades _ or about 7,000 troops _ to be sent to Afghanistan to help counter a resurgent Taliban and quell rising violence.

Obama told CBS News that Afghanistan has to be the central focus in the fight against terrorists.

He said the Bush administration allowed itself to be distracted by a "war of choice" but now is the time to correct the mistake.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:00:45 PM EST
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In Kabul, Obama calls Afghan front 'central' to war on terror - International Herald Tribune

KABUL: Afghanistan must become "the central front" in the war on terror, Barack Obama said Sunday in the Afghan capital, sharpening his policy clash with John McCain over whether the war in Iraq has been a distraction from that effort.

Obama has pledged to send thousands more troops to Afghanistan and to focus more on terrorist sanctuaries in Pakistan.

"We have to understand that the situation is precarious and urgent here in Afghanistan, and I believe this has to be the central focus, the central front, in the battle against terrorism," Obama said in an interview with CBS News.

In a nearly two-hour lunch with President Hamid Karzai and other top Afghan officials, Obama "conveyed that he is committed to supporting Afghanistan and to continuing the war against terrorism with vigor," said Homayun Hamidzada, a spokesman for Karzai, who did not comment directly on Obama's proposed strategy in Afghanistan.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:14:13 PM EST
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Obama falls victim to propaganda: Before widening war in Afghanistan, there is much to consider | The Smirking Chimp

Barack Obama wants to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq and send them to Afghanistan, which he calls the real front on the "war on terror." He also has repeated threats to attack Pakistan "if necessary."

One understands Obama's need to sound macho. Rival John McCain has been beating his chest, proclaiming, "I know how to win wars." Polls show Americans trust McCain three to one over Obama as a war leader. Unfortunately, recent U.S. presidents seem to require small military conflicts to prove their political virility.

But Obama has long called the U.S.-led occupation of Afghanistan a "good war," a view most Americans and Canadians share. They see Afghanistan -- and now Pakistan -- as hotbeds of al-Qaida and Taliban terrorists that must be eradicated.

It is distressing to see Obama succumb to the blitz of war propaganda over Afghanistan and adopt George W. Bush's faux terminology of terrorism. Before Obama urges widening America's war there, he should consider:

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 12:33:13 AM EST
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Brzezinski wary of repeating Soviet experience

Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former US national security adviser and prominent supporter of Barack Obama, has warned the Democratic presidential candidate that he risks repeating the defeat suffered by the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

Mr Obama has called for up to 10,000 more US troops to be deployed in the country, where the USSR once sent tens of thousands of soldiers only to suffer cataclysmic military failure.

But in an interview with the Financial Times Mr Brzezinski warned: "It is important for US policy in general and for Obama more specifically to recognise that simply putting more troops into Afghanistan is not the entire solution . . . We are running the risk of repeating the mistake the Soviet Union made . . . Our strategy is getting in deeper and deeper."

He added that while the Soviets invaded the country thinking there was a communist Afghan elite on which they could rely, "we have to be careful not to overestimate the appeal of the democratic Afghan elite, because we run the risk that our military presence . . . will gradually turn the Afghan population entirely against us".



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 12:06:58 PM EST
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SPIEGEL Interview with Iraq Leader Nouri al-Maliki: 'The Tenure of Coalition Troops in Iraq Should Be Limited' - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

The situation in Iraq seems to be improving. SPIEGEL spoke with Iraqi Prime Minister al-Maliki about his approval of Barack Obama's withdrawal plans and what he hopes from US President Bush in his last months in office.

SPIEGEL: Mr. Prime Minister, the war and its consequences have cost more than 100,000 lives and caused great suffering in your country. Saddam Hussein and his regime are now part of the past. Was all of this worth the price?

Maliki: The casualties have been and continue to be enormous. But anyone who was familiar with the dictator's nature and his intentions knows what could have been in store for us instead of this war. Saddam waged wars against Iran and Kuwait, and against Iraqis in the north and south of his own country, wars in which hundreds of thousands died. And he was capable of instigating even more wars. Yes, the casualties are great, but I see our struggle as an enormous effort to avoid other such wars in the future.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:03:22 PM EST
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Maliki's Praise for Obama: Iraqi Leader Stirs up US Campaign - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

Obama is pleased, but McCain certainly is not. In an interview with SPIEGEL, Iraqi Prime Minister al-Maliki expressed support for Obama's troop withdrawal plans. Despite a half-hearted retraction, the comments have stirred up the US presidential campaign. SPIEGEL stands by its version of the conversation.

Comments made by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in an interview with SPIEGEL (more...) published on Saturday have stirred up the campaign teams of both Barack Obama and John McCain this weekend. And late on Saturday, Maliki tried to distance himself from the statements, saying his comments were misunderstood.

 Comments by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki seemingly in favor of Barack Obama's plans for troop withdrawal have stirred up the US campaign. In the interview, Maliki expressed support of Obama's plan to withdraw US troops from Iraq within 16 months. "That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of changes."

Maliki was quick to back away from an outright endorsement of Obama, saying "who they choose as their president is the Americans' business." But he then went on to say: "But it's the business of Iraqis to say what they want. And that's where the people and the government are in general agreement: The tenure of the coalition troops in Iraq should be limited."

A Baghdad government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, said in a statement that SPIEGEL had "misunderstood and mistranslated" the Iraqi prime minister, but didn't point to where the misunderstanding or mistranslation might have occurred. Al-Dabbagh said Maliki's comments "should not be understood as support to any US presidential candidates." The statement was sent out by the press desk of the US-led Multinational Force in Iraq.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:04:03 PM EST
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Barack Obama goes offshore for home votes | The Australian

BARACK Obama embarks on a tour of Europe, the Middle East and Afghanistan this weekend - a feverishly anticipated audition on the world stage that includes the unprecedented spectacle of aUS presidential candidate addressing a huge crowd in a foreign city.

Yet for all the adoring throngs that are likely to greet the Democratic contender and the eight foreign leaders he will meet, the trip is aimed at voters back home, where Senator Obama's youth and inexperience have raised significant doubts that he has the gravitas, grit and sure-footedness to be their next commander-in-chief.

The 20,000km whirlwind tour, extraordinary for its timing midway through a general election campaign and the international media frenzy it is attracting, will take Senator Obama to Iraq, Afghanistan, Jordan, Israel, the West Bank, Germany, France and Britain as he seeks to bolster his national security credentials, one of his greatest electoral liabilities.

Should any of his hosts be under the illusion that the trip is not primarily a White House campaign event, Senator Obama, 46, is taking no foreign journalists. He has filled his campaign plane with US reporters, including three television news anchors, who are in discussions to hold prime-time interviews with him on consecutive nights.

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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:04:46 PM EST
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The Australian:

a feverishly anticipated audition on the world stage that includes the unprecedented spectacle of a US presidential candidate addressing a huge crowd in a foreign city.

So wrong in so many ways.

Fran:

where Senator Obama's youth and inexperience have raised significant doubts that he has the gravitas, grit and sure-footedness to be their next commander-in-chief.

Plenty of sure-footedness, grit, and gravitas on display in McCain's campaign.

He probably keeps them next to the golf accessories and the pink elephant.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:10:05 AM EST
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Jewish guerrillas told British: quit Palestine or die - Times Online

A pamphlet warning Britons to leave the Middle East or face death has come to light in a stash of illicit propaganda.

The document does not hail from Basra or Baghdad, nor was it penned by the Islamists of al-Qaeda or the al-Mahdi Army. It was found in Haifa, about 60 years ago, and it was issued by the underground group led by Menachem Begin - the future Prime Minister of Israel and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.

The document, which surfaced at an auction house this week, is addressed to "the soldiers of the occupation army" and aimed at British soldiers serving in Palestine, then under the British Mandate, preceding the establishment of Israel in 1948. The print has faded and the paper has discoloured since it was unearthed from a grove of trees in Haifa in the summer of 1947. Yet the language and the concerns remain current.

Bombings and murders by underground groups, such as Begin's Irgun, hastened the British withdrawal and the United Nations declaration that led to the founding of modern Israel.

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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:05:09 PM EST
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I think you'll find they were not terrorists at all, but Freedom fighters. It's a very important difference.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:24:15 PM EST
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I think that there should be a mandated 'snark' or 'gauntlet thrown' indicator whenever the doors of this arena are opened.


Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 01:40:19 AM EST
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The Real News Network - Story
In the second part of his interview to Pepe Escobar, investigative historian and military policy analyst Gareth Porter expands on what awaits Senator Barack Obama when he deals with the power of the national security state. Porter also examines what kind of movement and leader would it take to really try to change a very rigid system, and the proposition of Obama as a new Bobby Kennedy.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:08:20 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Americas | Colombia set for mass peace march

Colombia is preparing for what is expected to be one of the biggest demonstrations in its history.

Millions are expected to turn out, not just in Colombia but across the world, to call for an end to kidnapping and for peace.

Ingrid Betancourt, the French-Colombian hostage freed in a daring military rescue earlier this month, will lead protests in Paris.

The question is whether the rebels of the Farc group are going to listen.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:09:31 PM EST
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EU Calls for Balanced Deal at Crunch World Trade Talks | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 20.07.2008
EU Commission Chief Barroso urged trade ministers from more than 30 nations meeting for make-or-break talks in Geneva Monday to reach a balanced deal, warning that emerging economies too had to make a major contribution.

After nearly seven years of unsuccessful haggling, trade ministers from three dozen rich, poor and emerging economies will try to bridge massive  differences on farm subsidies, import tariffs and accessibility of markets at a meeting in Geneva which opens Monday, July 21.

Called the Doha Development Agenda or Doha round, named after the Qatari capital where the world trade talks were first launched with great fanfare and hope in 2001, the negotiations have been jammed for years.

At the heart of the deadlock lie developing nations' demand for lower farm subsidies and agricultural tariffs in the rich world. In return, industrialized countries are pressing that developing countries reduce import duties and make their markets more accessible to imported services and manufactured goods.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:12:22 PM EST
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Replace "massive" with "insurmountable".

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:18:48 PM EST
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British PM: Demands end to Israel settlements - CNN.com

BETHLEHEM (AP) -- British Prime Minister Gordon Brown demanded Sunday that Israel cease settlement construction and promised more money to jump-start the battered Palestinian economy.

Gordon Brown, left, shakes hands with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. 1 of 2

In his first trip to Israel and the Palestinian territories as Britain's leader, Brown repeatedly stressed that economics are key to Mideast peace, and said Israel should ease travel restrictions in the West Bank that have hindered commerce.

But his strongest comments were reserved for the settlements: "I think the whole European Union is very clear on this matter: We want to see a freeze on settlements."

"Settlement expansion has made peace harder to achieve. It erodes trust, it heightens Palestinian suffering, it makes the compromises Israel needs to make for peace more difficult," Brown said at a news conference with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank town of Bethlehem.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:23:41 PM EST
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Gordon Brown to condemn Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - Telegraph
Gordon Brown will pledge "unbreakable" support to Israel while launching his strongest attack yet on Iran.

The Prime Minister will send a tough message to the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday, warning of imminent sanctions on oil and gas if he does not abandon his nuclear ambitions.

In a landmark speech to the Israeli parliament, Mr Brown will say that Mr Ahmadinejad's denial of Israel's right to exist is "totally abhorrent".

The European Union has already said it stands ready to push for a block on foreign investment in new Iranian oil and gas projects along with sanctions on the financial sector if the Gulf state does not comply with requests to suspend its uranium enrichment programme.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:39:56 PM EST
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Idiot suck up. Iran doesn't care and Israel isn't impressed. By choosing sides the UK is rendered irrelevant in any negotiation. Even his plea to the Israelis to stop expanding settlements (nb, not remove the ones they have) will be ignored, yet he pledges fealty, bends the knee in craven fashion.

Even I'm surprised by the extent to which he looks out of his depth.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:50:43 PM EST
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...his plea to the Israelis to stop expanding settlements (nb, not remove the ones they have)

Aye; that's the nub. The entire country is one expanding settlement, but each individual settlement built past the Green Line is (yet another) violation of the Geneva Accord, as is each apartheid road built between them, as is the Wall.

How the Israelis have turned into their own worst nightmares is a study in mankind's ability to justify anything, then doing it repeatedly, escalated and writ large in order to prove to others that the original (and each subsequent) error was well thought out and worthy of validation.

Would that we worked and escalated so intensely to prove how justified our acts of kindness are, but instead we only get to study such behavior in the development of criminal behavior.

How the Israelis will ever make reparations for their century of terror (essentially upon another of their own family line) will be another interesting study. Has anyone started making book on when that will start and how much that will be?

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 02:05:36 AM EST
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The Israelis are doing this because external war prevents them confronting the lethal fault line in their own society. So they will not stop until the US either stops them or abandons them due to its own financial collapse. As the former is unlikely in our lifetime, it will be the absolute Soviet-style financial and military collapse of the United States that brings this about.

So the book should be on when the US falls over, which I don't see happening in the near future but is a reasonable bet 20 -30 years downline.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 05:35:07 AM EST
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You might be entertained by this: Front group associated with Cheney calls for Bush to be dictator... for life...

Larisa Alexandrovna is the key investigative journalist for The Raw Story

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:14:09 AM EST
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Excuse me while I wind my eyelids back from the place they have become lodged on the top of  my head.

Following the links from the comments takes you some even more maniacal ravings.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 09:58:07 AM EST
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The entire country is one expanding settlement
Now, now, if you renege on the 1947 Partition of Palestine what's left of the UN system?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:23:56 AM EST
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I perked my ears all I could, but there was no mention of bliar at all.  So where is mr. Palestine development on vacation now?  Still AWOL with our pay?  What exactly has he done so far?

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:53:03 PM EST
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heh ? He knows better than to interfere with brown messing up as it might deflect the blame.

Besides, doesn't he want to be alone with his money these days ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:56:55 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | South Asia | Coalition 'bombs Afghan police'

At least 13 Afghan police and civilians have died in two incidents involving international forces, officials say.

Four Afghan police and five civilians died in an apparently mistaken air strike by international coalition forces in Farah province.

Separately, the Nato-led Isaf said it had "accidentally" killed at least four civilians in Paktika province.

The incidents are the latest in a series of controversial clashes involving foreign troops.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 03:55:16 PM EST
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Still winning hearts and minds. But Obama thinks an expanded military, ie more of this, is the solution.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 at 04:52:24 PM EST
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RIA Novosti - Russia - Russian combat aircraft could return to Cuba - paper

MOSCOW, July 21 (RIA Novosti) - Russian combat aircraft could return to Cuba in a bid to counter U.S. plans to deploy a missile shield in Central Europe, a Russian daily reported on Monday.

Moscow has strongly opposed the possible deployment by the U.S. of 10 interceptor missiles in Poland and an accompanying radar in the Czech Republic as a threat to its national security. Washington says the defenses are needed to deter a possible strike from Iran, or other "rogue" states.

"While they are deploying the missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic, our strategic bombers will already be landing in Cuba," a high-placed military aviation source told the Izvestia newspaper.

Russia's Tu-160 (Blackjack) and Tu-95 (Bear) strategic bombers are both capable of reaching Cuba.

However, while the source admitted that the possibility of Russian bombers being stationed in Cuba was for now just a hypothetical possibility, he also noted that the rumors had not appeared from out of thin air.



The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 05:07:11 AM EST
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Holy shit - a remake of the Cuban Missile Crisis with Poland starring as Turkey.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 06:27:20 AM EST
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Not quite. It will be a repeat once ballistic missiles are placed in Cuba or anywhere else in Latin America (given the resentment of Anglo-Saxon policies). Analogy to the proposal to host/refuel aircraft near US borders is what any European NATO country will do for the US, i.e. current situation.

 

by blackhawk on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:01:46 AM EST
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Just wait for the American reaction to those planes.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:18:08 AM EST
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If Russians are serious, what they can do? Either shut up or whine. US has ZERO real leverage on Russia, of all countries.
by blackhawk on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:31:46 AM EST
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That's what's dangerous. When you have no real leverage, all you have left is sabre-rattling.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:43:33 AM EST
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No worries, "empty sabre-rattling" that's were it will end up, unless Russian strategic command is messing things up; thanks to Soviets, they still can destroy NATO five times over.

by blackhawk on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 08:56:34 AM EST
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MOSCOW, July 21 (RIA Novosti) - Russian combat aircraft could return to Cuba in a bid to counter U.S. plans to deploy a missile shield in Central Europe, a Russian daily reported on Monday.

[DoDo's European Geography TechnologyTM]

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 09:01:46 AM EST
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