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Given that Condi seems to achieved a diplomatic coup by getting some form of relationship with Iran going again against the wishes of the neocon coven led by Grand Wizard Cheney, is today's op-ed in the NYT detailing Israel's insistence on bombing Iran part of Cheney's response ? "By hook or by crook I will have war with these people."

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 10:52:08 AM EST
You're kidding yourself if you think Condi's running in 2012, though.  She couldn't get nominated for a city council position in the GOP.

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by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:16:36 AM EST
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Do you have to be in one of the houses to primary ? In which case I agree she ain't going anywhere. Especially given her living arrangements aren't gonna please the religious reich.

But then again, Exxon and the big bucks beckon.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:26:53 AM EST
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Do you have to be in one of the houses to primary ? In which case I agree she ain't going anywhere. Especially given her living arrangements aren't gonna please the religious reich.

I don't know if anyone's filled you in, but Condi is black.  Shocking, I know.

The living arrangements are just added weight to a potential candidacy, taking her from nigh-impossible to absolutely impossible.

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by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:36:13 AM EST
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«if the attack fails, the Middle East will almost certainly face a nuclear war -- either through a subsequent pre-emptive Israeli nuclear strike or a nuclear exchange shortly after Iran gets the bomb.»

God, my post-binge euphoria wore out when I read this oped. I thank you not.

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine

by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:17:40 AM EST
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Will any of this be usable as evidence to try Cheney for "Crimes against peace"?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:21:56 AM EST
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I think «crime against peace» is a name for an NGO, not a reason to jail politicians.

All the standing procedures against Cheney fail to benefit from governmental cooperation. He was supposed to be arrested in France at some point last year, iirc, but justice was too slow to act.

Or am I commiserating? Maybe the warrant was illegal.

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine

by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:28:02 AM EST
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Wasn't that Rumsfeld? and not Cheney?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:41:19 AM EST
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I should distinguish between the two. Thanks for the precision though, it is necessary to determine the proper level of cynicism required to go through the day.

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine
by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:45:50 AM EST
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Was one of the crimes defined by the Nuremberg Tribunal....

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 05:17:23 PM EST
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I wouldn't have joked about it had I known.

Nothing is mere... except historical symbols, I guess. So we can unload the burden, safely, and pass it on to children as education, not things serious people can keep in mind when waging war.

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine

by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 06:46:37 PM EST
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I'm not convinced that laws will eapply to cheney ever again. And he'll probably be surrounded by hordes of Blackwater's finest from here on in anyway.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:28:48 AM EST
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True justice means: 'Cheney in Guantanamo!'

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 01:46:13 PM EST
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What is Iran supposed to bomb Israel with? A plane full of centrifuges?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:41:09 AM EST
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Nah.  They'll build the nuke and have 500 of them throw it towards Tel Aviv.

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by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:45:05 AM EST
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From the Opposite Editorial:

The more likely result is that the international community will continue to do nothing effective and that Iran will speed up its efforts to produce the bomb that can destroy Israel. The Iranians will also likely retaliate by attacking Israel's cities with ballistic missiles (possibly topped with chemical or biological warheads); by prodding its local clients, Hezbollah and Hamas, to unleash their own armories against Israel; and by activating international Muslim terrorist networks against Israeli and Jewish -- and possibly American -- targets worldwide (though the Iranians may at the last moment be wary of provoking American military involvement).

See, Iran's arsenal includes everything required to frighten you. If that means adding planes full of centrifuges, you need only ask.

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine

by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:52:53 AM EST
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these articles really are beyond mere pant-wetting paranoia, there's a level of morbid obsession with grotesque death fantasies that is genuinely unhealthy.

the person that wrote that needs help.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 12:27:24 PM EST
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The planes will have snakes on them too.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 01:49:29 PM EST
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by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 02:00:30 PM EST
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We rewarded Condi's efforts to decheneyize America by yesterday sending over the young stud, lean and muscular Alexander Stubb, our new Foreign Minister. Marathon runner, gym rat, speaking 5 languages fluently (including French), former school bully, and full set of teeth, Mr Stubb made Condi go all a-tither. Sadly he's married - but he's invited Condi to see a Finnish ice hockey match when she comes to Helsinki at the end of the year (possibly). "Would you like a puck?" is what he is not rumoured to have asked her.

I was listening to a BBC program in the car today talking about foreign architects' projects in Beijing. A French architect was saying that the briefs from the Chinese were forward looking and inspiring. He attributed this to the fact that, at the operative level, the leadership he was talking to were around 35 years old. In the US, he said, the leadership is nearing its Seventies, in Europe its Sixties i.e. people who look back not forward.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:51:36 AM EST
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Blueprint has a dual Beijing/London Olympic special edition out. There's a look at the UK's olypmic village, which is currently behind a giant blue wall. There's a visitor centre which is, er, on top of an adjacent tower block. So the Blueprint editorial team commissioned an architect to design a blue-painted set of stairs to go against the wall - but the stairs were removed by security within 48 hours.

There was also an interesting interview with the only Chinese architect commissioned for Beijing. He said 'I'm glad no other Chinese architects were commissioned, because their work is not good.'

So - tact and diplomacy.

Beijing is going to disappear under smog, which is going to make it a firm favourite with the athletes.

I have no idea what London is going to turn into. It's supposed to be one of those urban regeneration projects, but apart from nice new stations, there doesn't seem to be a lot of that happening.

Maybe we could find some Chinese architects to make it more interesting?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 03:13:53 PM EST
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Pagoda payola?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 03:19:45 PM EST
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I have no idea what London is going to turn into.

Have you seen what happened to the Athens arenas after the event ? Mostly closed and rotting, except for a couple that became supermarkets.

Urban regeneration ??? The only way our clowns know to do that is to bulldoze those living there out of the way and then sell off the land to build affordable executive housing

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 03:26:46 PM EST
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The only way our clowns know to do that is to bulldoze those living there out of the way and then sell off the land to build affordable executive housing

Well, that's in keeping with the spirit of the Olympics, looking at recent history here in the states, as well as in Beijing.

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by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 03:32:15 PM EST
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the chinese olympic stadium looks like a paper package wrapped by a demented 4-year old!

ugliest thing i ever saw...

The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. Chinese Proverb.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 07:36:25 AM EST
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Moon of Alabama - Iran and Israel Have the U.S. Over a Barrel

Very useful analysis of how Iran and Israel are manoeuvering the US and that, between them, they have placed the US in a very difficult situation.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 18th, 2008 at 01:06:00 PM EST
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yup, top notch.

a lot rings very true

The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. Chinese Proverb.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Jul 19th, 2008 at 07:38:23 AM EST
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