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But people who know their local rural roads really well drive at stupid speeds since they know how to take all the bends etc. Unless certain roads are particularly known for cyclists.  

There's also the additional 'road rage' factor of being frustrated by a cyclist you need to overtake and cutting too close to them.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 at 04:44:41 PM EST
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I spend most of my time on local rural roads. The only way to keep cyclists safe would be to drive at cyclist speeds. I'm all for segregation - cycling on the main local road here is madness. There's a nearby canal which would be perfect as an alternative, but it doesn't seem to be used much.

Cars are useful for more than personal transport. The minivan angle is under-appreciated. I regularly do recycling runs which completely fill the car. And I'm taking some prints to a gallery tomorrow. It would be impossible to transport them on a bike, and it would need multiple trips with serious inconvenience and possible glass breakage by public transport. Even a regular shopping run would be a struggle on a bike.

I suppose these are all optional, or the community horse and cart service would be a realistic alternative. Which might be true. But while oil is a very stupid idea, that's not inherently a given for cars. There are non-trivial costs associated with moving some things very slowly, moving them without protection from the weather, or not being able to move them at all.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 at 08:13:28 PM EST
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