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European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 22. July | 85 comments (85 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Wasn't some reform better than none? (4.00 / 3)

Okay, so according to Libération, the problem is that they left out some key reform measures:

Constitution réformée, mode d'emploi		reformed Constitution, mode d'emploi
Mais, de fait, l'essentiel des mesures indispensables qui prétendaient «rééquilibrer les pouvoirs» ont disparu : l'interdiction du cumul des mandats, le contrôle effectif du Parlement des nominations décidées par le chef de l'Etat, la création d'un statut de l'opposition parlementaire... Et surtout la réforme du Sénat, la plus archaïque des deux assemblées, dont le mode de scrutin fait un domaine réservé de la droite. Au final, en fait de modernisation, ne reste qu'un toilettage.		But, in fact, most of the measures needed who claimed to "rebalance the powers" have disappeared: the prohibition of overlapping mandates, the effective control of Parliament appointments decided by the Head of State, the creation of 'status of the parliamentary opposition% u2026 And especially the reform of the Senate, the most archaic of the two assemblies, whose voting system is a reserved area on the right. In the end, in fact modernization remains a grooming.

But wasn't it better that some of these "sweeping" reforms -- many of which the left has been advocating for a long time, according to this Liberation article -- were passed rather than none at all?

... all progress depends on the unreasonable mensch.
(apologies to G.B. Shaw)

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 at 09:21:51 PM EST
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Re: Wasn't some reform better than none? (4.00 / 4)

The thing is, two months from now, there are elections for the senate, in which the left wing would have progressed - thus Sarkozy would have had to actually negotiate the constitutional changes with the PS rather than just ram it through with pork to the centre left. Better the complete reform rather than a bad one that freezes the constitutional reforms for some time (as Sarkozy now has no reasons to keep negotiating with the left wing on the subject).

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 at 04:52:24 AM EST
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Re: Wasn't some reform better than none? (4.00 / 3)

Can you tell us why the excluded measures were removed? Was it a political decision to give the right more power?

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 at 06:09:45 AM EST
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simple answer (none / 0)

yes.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 at 06:13:02 AM EST
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Re: Wasn't some reform better than none? (none / 1)

I was truly appalled that this passed. Any modification without including some proportional mode of election to the parliement was simply a strengthening of the royal presidency.

Lang should be ashamed of himself.

"The womb that spawned that thing is fertile yet"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:32:15 PM EST
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