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The picture that shames Italy - Europe, World - The Independent

It's another balmy weekend on the beach in Naples. By the rocks, a couple soak up the southern Italian sun. A few metres away, their feet poking from under beach towels that cover their faces and bodies, lie two drowned Roma children.

The girls, Cristina, aged 16, and Violetta, 14, were buried last night as the fallout from the circumstances of their death reverberated throughout Italy.

It is an image that has crystallised the mounting disquiet in the country over the treatment of Roma, coming after camps have been burnt and the government has embarked on a bid to fingerprint every member of the minority. Two young Roma sisters had drowned at Torregaveta beach after taking a dip in treacherous waters. Their corpses were recovered from the sea - then left on the beach for hours while holidaymakers continued to sunbathe and picnic around them.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 at 03:19:46 PM EST
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Here is a video:

http://www.pupia.tv/notizie/0003563.html

Though videos of course are also be cropped and edited, it does a suggest a certain respectful distance from the bodies, and the presence of emergency personnel.

I wonder if this photograph may not be somewhat misleading as to the true situation on that beach.

... all progress depends on the unreasonable mensch.
(apologies to G.B. Shaw)

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 at 06:54:30 PM EST
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I think the case was overblown. Everything was done to save the children. Two were saved while two died. The scene on the beach was caused by the long delay in removing the bodies due to red tape at the morgue. That is the real scandal.

Scenes of indifference to corpses are common throughout the world, long before Midnight Cowboy. We certainly needn't accept it but it is perhaps too hasty to depict it as cynical racism aimed specifically at Rom.

Cardinal Sepe did thunder about the case. It is always good to stigmatize racism but this particular episode does not seem to fit the bill.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 01:51:18 AM EST
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i agree, what does the media expect? a spontaneous religious ritual?

everyone within sight to pack up their families and kit and get on a 40° train home?

wtf? sad reality, but the same would have happened if the girls had been from elsewhere. people don't feel educated or equipped to deal with a situation like that, it doesn't mean they're heartless. what would anyone here have done in that situation?

the media has to whip everything into a scandal, when it's undeserved, and conveniently glosses over, or worse, whitewashes things that are really bad.

objective focus on what's really happening to italy, not so much, it takes furriners i guess to report from the outside. no skin off their noses...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 10:04:25 AM EST
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Most of the Italian news that ends up in the English press is based on easy universal categories a person can relate to. Berlusconi is presented as an easy going "flambouyant" success story with some amiable legal hassles.

Real news needs to have its context explained- and most newspapers either do a bad job or simply don't bother.

In the past two days we've had the Tavaroli incrimination, 18 arrests in Reggio Calabria in which Micciché is implicated (who's Micciché?), the Del Turco arrest with all parties involved... How do you explain the Tavaroli case in less than 500 words?

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 11:23:11 AM EST
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How do you explain the Tavaroli case in less than 500 words?

heh, i can only handle so much RAI, i haven't a clue as to what that's about, unless beppe or you clue me in, clueless i remain.

the layers of baroque complexity in italian politics leave me stupefied.

still dealing with the 'davantologia', i'll leave the 'dietrologia' to you experts, the better to eventually decipher...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 07:37:12 PM EST
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The photo is clearly taken with a very long lens, which has the effect of compressing perspective, making the couple in the background look rather closer than they are. Same scene from the video:
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 02:41:14 AM EST
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