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Appeals court reverses ruling that a woman in tight jeans cannot be raped - Times Online

Italy's top appeals court has reversed its notorious ruling of nine years ago that a woman wearing tight jeans cannot by definition be raped or sexually molested since the removal of the garment requires her "collaboration and consent".

A 37-year-old man from Padua convicted in 2005 of sexually molesting his partner's teenage daughter by inserting his hands inside the front of her jeans had appealed to the Court of Cassation, citing its 1999 ruling and claiming that he could not have committed the alleged "libidinous act" because the girl's jeans were too tight.

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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 at 03:22:35 PM EST
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In Spain, some judgments of judges said that the applicants women had "incited sexually" to their perpetrators. Shit!

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by PerCLupi on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 04:28:08 AM EST
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Well, if they wear skirts they incite and if they wear jeans they can't be raped, according to judges. And not just in Southern Europe.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 06:26:53 AM EST
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I wish this were just italy. The whole world seems to have problems with ascribing guilt to sexually abusive males, a case of "there but for the grace of god go I" from an overwhelmingly male legal system.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 05:23:02 AM EST
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claiming that he could not have committed the alleged "libidinous act" because the girl's jeans were too tight.

And he knows they were too tight because he did try to insert the hand in them, right?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 06:25:33 AM EST
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For the interest of linguistic psycho-sociology:
In Spanish there is an expression (collected in the dictionary) meter mano (=put hands) as "touching someone with erotic intentions." I ask:

Is there a similar expression in other languages?

I had over a quarter a professor of Latin (of course, in University), which said that they paid him 500 PTA per month and he gave us classes for PTA per month. He said, on history and institutions:

¡Viva el Imperio Romano,
que a los siervos manumite
y a las siervas "mite manu"!

Long live for the Roman Empire,
which "manumites" to the slave-men
and he "mites manu" to the slave-women!

Latin manumittere = Spanish "manumitir" = "give freedom".

In Italy, like in Spain, the influence of the classical world is still present. The latin slave-women did not wear tight pants, but skirts.


When Procrustes looks after you, you're sure to fit in.

by PerCLupi on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 08:12:54 AM EST
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