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Obama Calls for a "Civilian National Security Force" « Bad American

When it comes to Barack Obama, I'm not merely disappointed anymore. Now I'm scared.

From Paul Joseph Watson in Infowars

Presidential frontrunner Barack Obama has called for a "civilian national security force" as powerful as the U.S. military, comments that were ignored by the vast majority of the corporate media but compared by one journalist to the Nazi Hitler Youth.

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded," Obama told a Colorado Springs audience earlier this month.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 03:13:53 PM EST
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It is difficult to maintain the illusion, optimism and faith in the human being.

Instead rereading "The fear of freedom", you must write "The love of security. The yearning of a perfect world police".

When Procrustes looks after you, you're sure to fit in.

by PerCLupi on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 04:46:16 PM EST
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Bush et al have set up the potential for a really spectacular fascist, authoritarian state with the thought that the Repubs would be the only ones running the show.  The irony if Obama takes all of the tools now in place and constructs his own version and the Repubs are the victims?

Anyone for rounding up Repubs?  Gitmo's still open for business.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 05:48:52 PM EST
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Isn't that a national guard ? Only under Presidential control ? Kinda like what Bush has already passed the legislation for but not called into operation.

The militarisation of America's society continues apace.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 05:49:14 PM EST
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sorta like kennedy's peace corps, but with tazers maybe?

i hope this is alex jones-type paranoia...

although once again it might dilute-by-draft the 'security' forces, rather preferable to the born thugs attracted to blackwater etc.

sad to have to use relativity this way...

maybe it's (another) bluff, like FISA.

gotta give some, to get more...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 07:52:51 PM EST
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we (I was with two other kossacks, one very loud and the other very gay) had a semi-tense conversation with a cabbie. When hearing we were liberals, he said "keep talking, and I'm that much closer to dropping you off" - the reply was "we're liberals, we tip well" "in which case, ok" "You can tell Republicans - money will trump everything" then this came up "what do you think of Obama's plan for a domestic security forces - it sounds like the brown shirts". I had not heard of it, and the other kossacks responded that it was a civilian force à la Peace Corps, but the reference to the brown shirts struck me. So the meme is out there, presumably on rightwing talk radio. Not sure myself on the substance.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:34:26 AM EST
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What Obama needs to do is put the National Guard back under State control and make it impossible to deployed abroad.

It would also help if civil defence were civilian, not military (the civil defence organisations are civilian as far as I know in Spain and the UK, but in the US there's only the National Guard).

In a few countries such as Jordan and Singapore (see Singapore Civil Defence Force), civil defense is essentially the same organization as the fire brigade. In most countries however, civil defense is a government-managed, volunteer-staffed organization, separate from the fire brigade and the ambulance service. As the threat of Cold War eased, a number of such civil defense organizations have been disbanded or mothballed (as in the United Kingdom and the United States civil defense), while others have changed their focuses into providing rescue services after natural disasters (as for the State Emergency Service in Australia). However the ideals of Civil Defense have been brought back in the United States under FEMA's Citizens Corps and CERT.
Umm, in Spain the Protección Civil organization has always been about relief for natural disasters.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:59:17 AM EST
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