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This is visa-free only in name. You still have to forward your data to the US government and the Department of State can prevent you from boarding.

Personally, knowing the way US immigration now works, I'd rather be denied a visa than be denied boarding, let alone entry after landing. At least with a visa you can do some planning.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 03:42:43 AM EST
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I know it's visa-free only in name. But why is this such a priority for the EU? There are more important things (in terms of EU citizens' rights) to focus on.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 04:00:50 AM EST
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Hippy class warrior. Why do you keep throwing up the concerns of ordinary people? Don't you know that there are decent honest bankers and politicians who need to jet around the globe? What is government for if not to make their life easier?
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:46:37 AM EST
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Because it's directly linked to privacy issues, given that the US asks for tons of personal information from EU citizens, and wants the right to pass over all that data to all of their law enforcement agencies, something which is illegal in most European countries.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:59:02 AM EST
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The Council has demonstrated at every turn on this issue that they don't care about data protection.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:45:16 AM EST
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That would be a fair priority for us, because we're concerned about it. But is the EU worried? I don't see it.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 01:02:02 PM EST
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It's a priority because businesses want the convenience of not having to apply for visas and not having to plan their executives' travel enough in advance.

Even though corporations could just get people visas just in case because they have the time and resources to do it they prefer visa-free travel.

This is not really about the average citizen or about protecting civil liberties since the Council came up with a regulation which was even worse than the one the Commission came up with the previous time, regarding data exchange.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 06:44:38 AM EST
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Sounds right to me.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 01:03:59 PM EST
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