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In an article on CNN, I found a claim that the bent-bananas meme goes back even further: two years before the Sun article, in 1992, at an unspecified press conference, an unspecified (but obviously British) media asked a silly question from EU (er, then EC) representatives, who answered in style.

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by DoDo on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 05:14:18 PM EST
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I am afraid I have a silly question of my own:  does this regulation mean that a 13 cm banana cannot be imported and/or sold within the EU?

Cynicism is intellectual treason.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 04:42:23 AM EST
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Come on, that's exactly the reflex the UK Europhobes had: how to look at this so it sounds ridiculous.

This is about laying down standards for producers. In particular:

EUR-Lex - 31994R2257 - EN

the purpose of these standards is to ensure that the market is supplied with products of uniform and satisfactory quality, in particular in the case of bananas harvested in the Community, for which efforts to improve quality should be made.

"In the Community" would cover the French overseas departments of Martinique and Guadeloupe, for instance. It's to be expected that the big producers, like Chiquita, Dole, etc, were already applying similar standards, simply because, in their industrial perspective, it is counter-productive to work with plantations that turn out heterogenous material in terms of packaging, transport, and final consumer acceptance.

Now, either you regulate in matters like these or you leave it to "the market". In any case, you'll note that all fruit (in the US and Europe, at least) is sold in carefully-measured sizes. It seems 1) industrial process; 2) marketability 3) regulations where they exist, concur to produce a similar result.

Are industrial process or free markets held up to ridicule for laying down measured standards?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 at 10:02:05 AM EST
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I was not trying to ridicule the regulation.  I was trying to understand what exactly it meant.

On that EUR-Lex page, I could not find references to penalties, rights to sell, etc.  So I am not clear just what effect such standards have in practice.

I guess they are are just "guidelines" then.

Cynicism is intellectual treason.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 at 02:12:35 AM EST
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by guidelines, i mean suggestions as to what standards producers should aspire to, not legal or regulatory requirements that have to be met for sale.

Cynicism is intellectual treason.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 at 02:20:39 AM EST
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It can work via the purchasers: if there is an EU standard, purchasers will simply make it a requirement ("want X amount of Y fulfilling EN 12366...").

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 at 03:57:35 AM EST
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Sorry if I assumed a certain degree of snark in your question!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 at 05:13:10 AM EST
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