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I just came back from hearing Obama speak near the Victory column here in Berlin. The german crowd was polite, but not enthusiastic. Obama indirectly asked for more german involvment in Afganistan which met with silence. Also his going on about the airlift during the cold-war was a bit much seeing as the cold-war was as much a american made problem as it was a soviet one. This going on about the wall was also a bit much as he was not critical about the newest wall of exclusion namely the walls that the isreallis are builiding about which he said nothing. He mentioned getting rid of all atomic weapons - this after the US government is supporting a deal leading to increased Indian access to nuclear fuel could accelerate the atomic arms race with Pakistan. What the people in Berlin came to hear and expect was an apology from a high US official for the last years of the stupid and criminal Bush gang. What it got instead was a milk-toast speach saying nothing. Complain about this commentPosted by Wim from Berlin | 24.07.08, 20:57 GMT
I just came back from hearing Obama speak near the Victory column here in Berlin. The german crowd was polite, but not enthusiastic. Obama indirectly asked for more german involvment in Afganistan which met with silence. Also his going on about the airlift during the cold-war was a bit much seeing as the cold-war was as much a american made problem as it was a soviet one. This going on about the wall was also a bit much as he was not critical about the newest wall of exclusion namely the walls that the isreallis are builiding about which he said nothing. He mentioned getting rid of all atomic weapons - this after the US government is supporting a deal leading to increased Indian access to nuclear fuel could accelerate the atomic arms race with Pakistan. What the people in Berlin came to hear and expect was an apology from a high US official for the last years of the stupid and criminal Bush gang. What it got instead was a milk-toast speach saying nothing.
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Posted by Wim from Berlin | 24.07.08, 20:57 GMT
This, on the other hand, is just plain insane.
I wonder if McCain's minions will use another photo-op of his to mobilise the evangelical base: Obama's meeting with Berlin's openly gay major. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
The picture of Obama's hand in the crowd reminded me of that.
But I think it is just me ;)
The nationalism over there is scaring me. Am I the only one who has a problem with adulation of a perceived "strong leader"? I mean, are these people BLIND? Don't they see what they're admiring?
Waving flags... chanting... crowds... ohhh, hypnotic, yes, Barack, we BELIEVE!
It's scary as hell.
Thank you guys, again, for seeing it for what it is instead of being mindless morons.
Such frenzy seems telling about the state of the amurkan subconscious. and these are the "good guys." "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
That sound egotistical, and it is, but it also happens to be true.
Obama is a typical demagogue. He has decent manipulative skills, organizational ability, party connections, and sufficient financial backing to win the presidency. Listening to what he says, rather than some Pink Lollipop version, it becomes clear he isn't any big change from George:
