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If London Banker is correct, they will prove very efficient in extracting, (soaking?), the last bit of remaining value out of US Banks by interested private parties before tossing the shells to the FDIC and the taxpayers.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Wed Jul 30th, 2008 at 04:58:06 PM EST
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I doubt that such moves (to convert good assets into covered bonds) will be seen as "saving the system" - they will be seen as "selling the silverware" and would likely accelerate the defiance against these banks.

So for fragile banks, trying to do that might be the kiss of death. But maybe they don't realise it. Hmmm...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Jul 30th, 2008 at 05:51:54 PM EST
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From London Banker
Last week the FDIC released a policy statement on covered bonds that provides for "expedited release of collateral" if an issuing bank is taken into FDIC receivership or liquidation. The Treasury is expected to release a protocol on best practices for covered bond issuance in a high profile event next week.

This is what gives me pause.  The folks in this administration seem to view their obligations as being to the members of their own group, not to the nation as a whole.  With such a view it is possible to think: "Well, these institutions are going down anyway.  Why let good assets go down with them if we can insure that they go to our allies and supporters instead.  The "PEOPLE" will just squander what ever they get anyway. Let the "PEOPLE" eat the crap.  Keep the good stuff for our guys."

A few investment banks would end up with most everything of value from the banks' portfolios rolled into covered bonds, and the assets covering those bonds would fly away to the investment banks issuing the bonds upon the institutions defaults.  

No one in Washington will say anything for three reasons.

One: Very few people will pay close enough attention to notice what is happening.  It sounds wonky.

Two: If they speak out, they are endangering the contributions from these banks to their re-election campaigns.

Three: They can always say that they didn't expect THIS to happen.

Call me cynical, but that is exactly what I expect.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.

by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Wed Jul 30th, 2008 at 06:32:37 PM EST
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Do you want to put it up as a diary, it's worth promoting as a front page story, in fact.


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 05:21:53 AM EST
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by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 08:47:04 AM EST
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Looks like the post gave DKos a good stir, and you did a good job of keeping it on point.  I just wish I thought anything effective would come of it.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 10:51:40 AM EST
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The folks in this administration seem to view their obligations as being to the members of their own group, not to the nation as a whole.

Did I miss some memo declaring that today is "God Bless the Naive Day?"

First it is Helen with the "But the EU, like any government, is supposed to be run for the benenfit of the society as a whole, not just that tiny proportion of the population who are already over-rewarded for their contributions." and now this from Geezer?

What happened to my fellow pithy angry travelers?

Let's see if I can do this?

Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, blah blah blah...

... if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

blah blah blah...

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

How did I do? I'm not built for this comedy stuff. I think I need to work on my general patter in my delivery, don't you think?

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 05:38:53 AM EST
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Oh, me too, referring to all that postwar rights and rule of law nonsense, me naive, naive, God bless me!

(Let it not be said that we are all cynics on ET!)

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 05:47:32 AM EST
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Yes; I just noticed that you did it too~!

I'm not going to need any sweets for lunch or dinner today.

Mark my words, today is the day that we will read that Helen walked outside and a pony was standing there and everyone looked in their mailbox and found tickets to Malta for the next meet-up.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 06:07:37 AM EST
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No one can say that I am not trying at this comedy stuff. That's what my friends say, that I am very trying.

Ba dum.

Here's some more

Article 2.

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

The day after that happened, there was a huge fight for parade permits from the "Thank Odin, Women Are Being Paid As Much As Men" and the "Gay Rights" and the "Roma Are Our Brothers Everywhere" and athe "Papers? We Don't Need No Stinking Papers - Internationalists" groups.

Article 3.

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Going to the chapel and I'm Going to get married So I'm Going to the Chapel and I'm going to get married and Gee the little Chapel in the hills of Afghanistan and I'm going to see my family wiped out.

All together now. Yes; Clap your hands. Kumbia, my Lord....Look at that next slide....Kumbia...

Article 4.

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

I love that "in all their forms" part, don't you?

By the way, does wikipedia ever get anything right? I don't see any date for when predatory capitalism was outlawed. Chris? Gotta a citation for me?

Article 5.

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

There goes that "Be All That You Can Be" campaign. Great, shift that advertising money to the fuel budget and we may be able to get one more war in by the end of the year.

OK; no more comedy. Hurts too much...

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 05:59:45 AM EST
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Damn, do I have to put {/snark} after all my comments.

I thought it was generally accepted under [Helen's Crystal Ball of Doom Technology] that all of my comments come ready-coated in cynicism and sarcasm.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 06:04:55 AM EST
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LOL

Sorry for not having a "lighter touch!" We need all of the comic relief we can get just about now.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.

by ARGeezer (argeezer a in a circle yahoo dot com) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 10:05:57 AM EST
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