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Do you think Thatcher was niave?  Reading that excerpt reminded me that last week I said to somebody - 'saying it, doesn't make it so'. Except, said enough times convincingly...

Great diary and an interesting read, thanks.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 30th, 2008 at 07:41:53 AM EST
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I don't know where Thatcher was on the naive to cynical scale. This speech feels naive in its unqualified assertions and its historical judgements that, with hindsight, raise a smile.

But yes, it worked. The current Commission is still paddling down that river. Fischer Boel talks Thatcher talk. Regulation = red tape, gets in the way of individual effort and enterprise. It's bollocks, but it's very easy to believe.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 30th, 2008 at 07:58:42 AM EST
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Fisher Boel is the Danish commissioner. Remember what I said here about Danish EU politicians? Deadbeats, fuckups and embarassments that are too well-connected to purge outright?

Well, Fisher Boel is a text-book example. A political (and intellectual) non-entity with a rich and well-connected daddy. I don't remember what she did to get banished to Bruxelles, but I remember sighing with relief that we would at least be rid of her back home.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Jul 30th, 2008 at 10:35:08 AM EST
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What I found interesting was that in that speech, you read between the lines and come away with the clear inference that once all this high finance stuff is fully deregulated and mobile, the ecu will naturally take it's place as the currency...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed Jul 30th, 2008 at 08:00:21 AM EST
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Well, Britain was supposed to go into the euro...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 30th, 2008 at 08:46:01 AM EST
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Thatcher's argument is flawed:

We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain ...

Now combine with:

The lesson of the economic history of Europe in the 1970s and 1980s is that central planning and detailed control don't work, and that personal endeavour and initiative do.

So, the previous conditions "the frontiers of the state" that provided the evidence for "personal endeavour" being superior to "central planning" have been "rolled back."

Thus, the conditions Thatcher is using as supporting evidence have been destroyed, meaning an historic (environmental) discontinuity, meaning her evidence is no longer affective in the environment she created.

by ATinNM on Wed Jul 30th, 2008 at 10:38:29 AM EST
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