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I guess technically you may be able to, unless somebody jumps up at the ceremony with reasons why these two people shouldn't marry... Would there be a risk of the marriage being revoked at a later stage if your gender becomes officially recognised through whatever process?

If you don't mind me asking do you have legal status as a woman or do you need to apply for these documents in order to get that?

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 at 10:56:04 AM EST
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I'm sure you could be supplied with some very muscular ushers if you ever wanted to do this.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 at 11:12:15 AM EST
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Ha, that's a bridge I'll cross should I come to it.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 at 11:26:58 AM EST
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One thing I remember from my sisters wedding is being informed by the priest that if anyone actually wanted to complain, they have to put a cash deposit down, otherwise their complaint is instantly dismissed.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 at 11:36:45 AM EST
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Do I have a legal status without ? Ummm, dunno. I have a passport and driving license that say I'm female and are taken as legitimate ID by all authorities I've dealt with. Whether that applies to marriage where a birth certificate is required I dunno.

The gender recognition certificate was brought in for that purpose but the legislation specifically states that it is not to be used as an identification certificate (despite which, the LGBT police officer demanded one from TGs who wanted to use the female loo at Pride). Course I can't retire at 60 whatever I do cos that would cost HM Govt money.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 at 11:25:44 AM EST
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Would there be a risk of the marriage being revoked at a later stage if your gender becomes officially recognised through whatever process?

No, because they oblige you to have a divorce from any official partnership before you go through. It was never an issue for me as I didn't have a partnership, but a lot of my official pre-op recognition was dependent on my being single.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 at 11:30:07 AM EST
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That has got to be one of the most absurd regulations I've ever heard of. Restricting medical treatment on the basis of who you live with?

Makes one want to go to sleep and not wake up until the 22nd century.

- Jake

Ceterum censeo Chicago esse delendam

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 at 02:02:14 PM EST
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Yea, but if you're married, which is currently legally restricted to heterosexual couples, then if you change sex your relationship legally changes.

Plus a lot of this comes from custom and practice when lesbian relationships weren't officially recognised. Also in the UK the medical profession make you jump through a lot of stupid hoops to prove to them you're serious and worth wasting money on.

Plus there's a whole heap of expectations from psychologists that the transgendered should conform to stereotypical feminine behaviours, one of which must involve a desire to play happy families with men. Being sexually orientated towards women definitely counts against you and so being married or wanting to continue a relationship with a woman would be the end of your ambitions to change gender.

And then bigot wimminists use conforming to those very stereotypes against us. Gah, ya can't win !!

Again, I'm glad I didn't have to put up with any of that crap, but those who did remain angry even decades later. The psychiatrist who started the gender re-assignment clinic was such a monster that, 25 years after his death, his resting place apparently still smells of wee from those who've pissed on his grave.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 29th, 2008 at 02:40:29 PM EST
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