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That Israel is currently running a long-term policy of genocide (committing it) is indeed obvious to some of us, but this is logically unconnected to the holocaust of the 20th century

Are you that historically illiterate or are you trolling?

The Israelis are treating the Palestinians horribly, but there is no genocide going on.  And incidentally, if you think that that's genocide, what would you have called Iran's early eighties policies against the Kurds, or the slightly later Turkish campaign, or the eighties era Iraqi campaign. Or Chechnya, or Kashmir, or, Iraq right now, or ... well the whole host of far more deadly crackdowns on violent ethnic/national/religious based rebellions. There's a difference between systematically making a population's life utterly miserable and genocide.

Such idiotic statements by some Palestinian supporters are a small but real contributor to delegitimizing those who seek to raise awareness in the US of what the Israelis are inflicting on the Palestinians.

by MarekNYC on Thu Jul 10th, 2008 at 01:16:23 AM EST
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So systematic starvation by blocking people's access to food isn't genocide?

But OK, for the purpose of the argument, let's grant you that what Israel is doing doesn't qualify as "genocide." Substitute "ethnic cleansing" instead; I don't think anybody could seriously question that such activities are taking place.

In point of fact, we had a visit from a couple of Israeli wingnuts the other month right here on ET who confirmed almost in so many words that the ultimate objective of at least a fraction of the settler movement and Israeli right wing is complete ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian population in Palestine.

Admittedly, I don't know how significant a faction it is, because I honestly didn't think such people actually existed outside Hezbollah propaganda and antisemitic caricatures until those two guys showed up.

- Jake

Ceterum censeo Chicago esse delendam

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Jul 11th, 2008 at 04:39:14 AM EST
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