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Can you provide anything, what Lula actually has done, to produce such results?
The income increases are not at all a safe sign, that redistributional policies were at work. Convincing would be e.g. if the pretax income would have been developed inverse to the cited aftertax(?) numbers.

Globalisation leads tendencially to an equalisation of wages across the globe. As the poorest people of Brasil were probably poorer than the average, an increase in their wages can entirely by a result of market forces. With European welfare above the world average wage, the same policies here could do just nothing.

That 'the rich' didn't become much richer is anyhow not too surprising. Looked how the stock market has performed in that time? Effortless income was meager in the last decade. Interest income was low, too - and is globally similar, e.g. a western capital owners can invest in Brasil, getting the same amount back, as a Brasilian capital owners. But a Brasilian worker of course gets higher wage increases than a western worker, as there is an equalisation tendency, and he starts lower.

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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 09:44:38 AM EST
Globalisation leads tendencially to an equalisation of wages across the globe

Does it? On what timescale?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 09:49:10 AM EST
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infinite(?) for Africa - in the absence of major catastrophies.
Currently we are in such a process, empirically it is of course impossible to say, if the current trends will go on forever, but I think there are some reasons to believe that for some time they will.

It is not the same speed in every country, because it depends on productivity increases. If a country provides the legal framework to make investments attractive - property rights, not too much corruption - I don't see a reason why it should not reach ~half of the level of the productivity in developed countries.
For China in maximum 50 years the wages should be at least half of western European ones. Full wage equalisation may not come, because physical proximity to those who own more capital may boost wages a bit, but currently the differences are much bigger than that.
In Eastern Europe adaption to western Europe living standards is something like 1-2% per year (was so for Spain, Greece, Portugal after they joined the EU), starting from 30% or so in case of Poland. Again, I expect some gap will remain for a long time, but your oursourcing project should make profit taking such equalisation into account - of course outsourcing is one of the main reason for the wage equalisation.

There may be some jobs, such as currently hedgefund managers, who got wages up to a billion $ per year. But I think we have seen a peak for a long time in financial engineering payment, and at some point I guess, the financial industy will diversify as well a bit more around the globe, leading to both, more competition in this area and if this uberwages remain, they will be at least diversified.

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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 31st, 2008 at 10:43:44 AM EST
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