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in Strasbourg for a long time was the fact that the European Parliament was using the building of the Council of Europe. Now a new building has been built, so this has disappeared, but a number of CoE institutions still exist, are in the same neighborhood and are often mistaken as EU institutions.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Jul 10th, 2008 at 06:16:19 AM EST
Naturally, since they all use the same flag.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 10th, 2008 at 06:18:07 AM EST
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I live within the EU permanently, and would like to attain citizenship, so i follow EU issues as closely as i can.  Particularly here on ET.  That there is so much discussion and debate over arcane differences in what at least on the surface seem to be overlapping structural entities is confusing.

It is this babel which has undermined the public's perception of the EU as far as i can tell.  If the public was actually aware of what the EU was, i'd bet opposition would drop off dramatically.  Perhaps Lisbon did not quite go far enough in streamlining the decades long, iceberg slow move to defining a European democracy.

I do think one of ET's strengths is bringing to light the complexities of the EU as it now exists, and pointing to areas which need more transparency.  And this observer truly appreciates the effort.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Thu Jul 10th, 2008 at 06:37:16 AM EST
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Ah, yes, but attempting to streamline anything will be met with crise of "They're stealing our precious power!".

At least sceptics should be honest: they don't want a more streamlined, more democratic EU, because they don't want any Europe at all.

by Dagonz on Thu Jul 10th, 2008 at 07:58:40 AM EST
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It is this babel which has undermined the public's perception of the EU as far as i can tell.  If the public was actually aware of what the EU was, i'd bet opposition would drop off dramatically.

amen

i had read the first bunch of comments, sighing at how much i had to still learn, my gorge almost rising at the sheer gobbleygook factor, it might as well be all greek, i was thinking, then the next comment was from talos, with the names in greek, lol!

i am amazed at some people here's tenacity and curiosity, i'm light years behind, but appreciate so much all your bulldog determination to crack the layers of cryptification.

odd image of trying to read the encyclopedia britannica upside down in a dark room, wearing shades, with a migraine building, and some high-decibel fracas down in the street below...

shine dat light, we'll ferret out every weasel weeviling in every little dark corner, rinse out the institution with salt and vinegar, and reboot the bugger.

The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. Chinese Proverb.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jul 10th, 2008 at 08:21:04 AM EST
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