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EUobserver: EU secularism undermined Lisbon, Irish cardinal says

Europe's attempts to keep religion away from the public domain was one of the reasons the Irish rejected the EU's new Lisbon treaty, the country's top Catholic church figure, cardinal Sean Brady, has suggested.

Speaking at the Humbert Summer School in Co Mayo on Sunday (24 August), the cleric said the EU's prevailing culture and social agenda seems to be driven by the secular tradition "rather than by the Christian memory and heritage of the vast majority of member states," the Irish Times reported.

 "As the recent referendum on the Lisbon treaty in Ireland suggests, at least some of those who were previously enthusiastic about the founding aims of the EU, both social and economic, are now expressing unease," he added.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 04:04:49 PM EST
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Bollocks. Anyone voting No on that basis was going to vote no for a hundred other reasons. Self-serving git.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 04:38:36 PM EST
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It's a classic case of post-hoc rationalisation. A majority voted NO.  A majority in Ireland are (at least nominally) Catholic.  I am the leader of Catholics in Ireland.  Therefore Catholics voted no because the Lisbon  Treaty wasn't sufficiently Catholic.  Now if you want MY people to support you in any re-vote, you are going to have to take my/our concerns on board.  Lets start with abortion, civil partnerships, Church control of schools...

Vote McCain for war without gain
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 08:08:25 AM EST
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I love the way these whiners always make it about them.

Please keep europe secular. The point about non-secular is not that you promote religion to the detriment of atheism, but you promote a religion, or in this case, one particular brand of christianity, to the detriment of all other christianities as well as other religions.

That's never gonna work in a community as diverse as the EU. Just look at all the different versions of christianity, most of which have serious doctrinal issues with regard to the existence of the others. Privileging the contradictions of religion, let alone of a religion, would be a disaster.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 05:20:02 AM EST
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It would be funny if we didn't have people like Sarko, surrounded by ultra-Catholic advisors, proclaiming the same stuff about the Christian tradition of Europe.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 09:47:58 AM EST
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