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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:39:27 PM EST
The Associated Press: Iraqi leader insists on deadline for troop pullout

BAGHDAD (AP) -- Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki dug in his heels Monday on the future of the U.S. military in Iraq, insisting that all foreign soldiers leave the country by a specific date in 2011 and rejecting legal immunity for American troops.

Despite the tough words, al-Maliki's aides insisted a compromise could be found on the two main stumbling blocks to an accord governing the U.S. military presence in Iraq after a United Nations mandate expires at the end of the year.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:43:20 PM EST
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conspicuous by its absence.... the oil contracts issue!

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 05:22:50 PM EST
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Yes, but things are looking up.  Resistance to the EMPIRE is growing.  The peons are getting uppity.  I'm a peon; I'm uppity.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 06:34:05 PM EST
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Ok, that makes one uppity peon. Where will you find another?
by asdf on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 11:24:52 PM EST
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That's what the net's for.  I'll start the Uppity Peon Brigade, ET Division.  Badges, neat hats, monogrammed underwear, all the bells and whistles. Have to confer with Jerome.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 09:59:42 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan coalition in major split

Former Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has pulled his PML-N party - the country's second biggest - out of the multi-party governing coalition.

He has been in dispute with the country's biggest party, the PPP, on the reinstatement of judges sacked by former President Pervez Musharraf.

The two sides also disagree over who should be the next president.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:45:13 PM EST
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Reuters AlertNet - Russia cruiser to test weapons in crowded Black Sea
MOSCOW, Aug 25 (Reuters) - Russia's flagship cruiser re-entered the Black Sea on Monday for weapons tests hours after the Russian military complained about the presence of U.S. and other NATO naval ships near the Georgian coast.

The 'Moskva' had led a battle group of Russian naval vessels stationed off the coastline of Georgia's breakaway region of Abkhazia during Russia's recent conflict with Georgia and sank smaller Georgian craft.

The assistant to the Russian Navy's commander-in-chief told Russian news agencies the cruiser had put to sea again two days after returning to its base at the Ukrainian port of Sevastopol.

"'Moskva' has today departed toward the Black Sea Fleet's naval training range to check its radio-controlled weapons and onboard communications systems," Captain Igor Dygalo was quoted as saying by Interfax.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:47:05 PM EST
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There's another pack of dogs in the park, quick, piss on the trees.

Are they afraid their guns don't work ? Are they afraid NATO don't know the capabilities of those guns ? Do they think NATO will run away if they fire them ?

Can military geniuses please step up from the sandpit once or twice and at least try and act like they're in 6th grade ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 05:40:49 AM EST
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Apparently Georgia, encouraged by (NATO? US? Neocons? GOP?) didn't think the Russians would shoot their guns.

It's not about dogs pissing on trees as much as about America pissing on Russia's shoes.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 09:55:54 AM EST
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Afghans Call for Review of Presence of Foreign Troops - NYTimes.com

KABUL, Afghanistan -- The Afghan Council of Ministers decided Monday to review the presence of international forces and agreements with foreign allies, including NATO and the United States, after a series of military operations that have caused heavy civilian losses. Skip to next paragraph Related Two Afghans Lose Posts Over Attack (August 25, 2008)

The ministers demanded a status of forces agreement, which would stipulate that the authority and responsibilities of international forces be negotiated, and said aerial bombing, illegal detentions and house raids by international forces must be stopped.

The declaration came after several military operations involving American forces resulted in heavy civilian casualties, most recently air strikes in western Afghanistan that killed more than 90 people, most of them women and children, according to a government commission.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:49:01 PM EST
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How the HELL does the US get away with this shit?  Is this out of the Stalin/Hitler playbook?  How did my country get to this point?  I WANT ANSWERS !!!

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 06:37:43 PM EST
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Russian threat to Nato supply route in Afghanistan - Times Online

Russia played a trump card in its strategic poker game with the West yesterday by threatening to suspend an agreement allowing Nato to take supplies and equipment to Afghanistan through Russia and Central Asia.

The agreement was struck at a Nato summit in April to provide an alternative supply route to the road between the Afghan capital and the Pakistani border, which has come under attack from militants on both sides of the frontier this year.

Zamir Kabulov, the Russian Ambassador to Afghanistan, told The Times in an interview that he believed the deal was no longer valid because Russia suspended military cooperation with Nato last week over its support for Georgia.

Asked if the move by Russia invalidated the agreement, he said: "Of course. Why not? If there is a suspension of military cooperation, this is military cooperation."

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 01:58:01 AM EST
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Der...whooops !!! Good spot Fran.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 05:45:37 AM EST
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This isn't just about Afghanistan anymore, this is about Pakistan as well.

And we still have no political leadership. We are still stuck in a 19th century gunboat militarist response mindset that didn't win Afghanistan under the British or the russians and won't win it under the americans either.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 05:52:39 AM EST
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Israel Releases Palestinian Prisoners - NYTimes.com

RAMALLAH, West Bank -- Israel on Monday released 198 Palestinian prisoners in a move intended to bolster the Palestinian president, Israel's negotiating partner, hours before Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice arrived in the region to try to nudge forward Israeli-Palestinian peace efforts.

Before embarking on two days of talks with top Israeli and Palestinian officials, Ms. Rice told reporters on the plane to Tel Aviv that there was a "lot of work ahead" if the sides hoped to reach a peace agreement by the end of the year.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:53:27 PM EST
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The Associated Press: Rice sees difficulties in Mideast talks

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice acknowledged Monday that a broad peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians is a long shot before President Bush leaves office, but she rejected the idea of a half-measure now.

"I think it's extremely important just to keep making forward progress, rather than trying prematurely to come to some set of conclusions," Rice said, dismissing speculation she wants both sides to sign onto a statement documenting their progress nine months into a secretive and publicly fruitless series of talks.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:56:02 PM EST
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BURMA: No Photo Op for Gambari
BANGKOK, Aug 25 (IPS) - A United Nations-led effort to push political reform in military-ruled Burma plunged to a humiliating low on the weekend, raising questions about the effectiveness of the world body's special envoy to the country, Ibrahim Gambari.

This shift was conveyed in the way Aung San Suu Kyi, the detained pro-democracy leader, treated Gambari during his six-day mission, which ended on Aug. 23. She refused to see him on at least two occasions. It was a silence of Gandhian proportions for the Nobel Peace laureate and, for the U.N. envoy, an unprecedented snub.

Deprived, as a result, was the photo opportunity that Gambari had used after his three previous visits to Burma, over the past year, to give the impression that he was making headway with Suu Kyi in paving the road for political reform. The images of the Nigerian diplomat posing with the 63-year-old Suu Kyi, who has spent over 13 of the past 18 years under house arrest, suggested she had confidence in the U.N.

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Other Burma watchers are as scathing. `'Unlike Gambari, Aung San Suu Kyi refuses to be a pawn in the junta's game,'' says Debbie Stothard of ALTSEAN, a regional body campaigning for human rights in Burma. `'This confirms that she has lost confidence in Gambari. She has said so through the only peaceful form of resistance available to her.''

Gambari's failure should `'be a wakeup call to the Security Council's members that they can no longer be conned by the junta,'' Stothard told IPS. `'Most of the key decisions makers at the U.N. used Gambari's shuttle diplomacy as an excuse not to act on Burma. But nothing has moved, and now there is little left to hope for.''

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 04:01:26 PM EST
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McCain defends his choice of ABBA as his favourite music.
Speaking to Walter Isaacson at the Aspen Institute in Colorado on Thursday, McCain found himself explaining a recent interview with Blender Magazine in which he selected ABBA's 1976 track "Dancing Queen" as his favorite song.

"What were you thinking?," Isaacson asked him, looking incredulous.

"If there is anything I am lacking in, I've got to tell you, it is taste in music and art and other great things in life," McCain joked. "I've got to say that a lot of my taste in music stopped about the time I impacted a surface-to-air missile with my own airplane and never caught up again."

I assume the rest of you realize that ABBA was not around in 1967, when McCain was shot down.

Should we have a moratorium on stories like this, and post instead on those rare occasions when he says something right?

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 06:57:31 PM EST
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I'd prefer to hear about the war crimes he committed before impacting his plane into a missile, but I would accept a moderate ration of his gaffs.

Until he is elected president of course, when I'll have to re-make the decision of never returning to the states again. Between the 2 x 45 minutes of hate on drive-time radio and the daily adulation of Comrade McNapoleon that will hit the airwaves, I don't think that I will be able to take it.

I am lacking in taste in music and art and other great things in life John "why did they think he was joking" McCain

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 01:37:14 AM EST
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But...but..you can't say that !! He was a POW, although he never mentions this himself. And is thus beyond criticism or correction.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 05:56:10 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | World | Americas | Three arrested over 'Obama plot'

At least three people have been arrested in the US over an alleged plot to kill US Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama, reports say.

The suspects planned to shoot Mr Obama in Denver, Colorado, during his speech accepting the nomination to run for US president, CBS4 TV station reports.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 05:19:04 AM EST
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Semi-amusing first hand account at the Big Orange.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 05:26:11 AM EST
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Michelle Obama's speech - the BBC's Justin 'Patriot' Webb is not impressed -

BBC NEWS | World | Americas | Democrats praise 'new hope' Obama

I thought Michelle Obama's speech was effective but not a knock-out; it doesn't settle the matters of perceived lack of patriotism and oddness and effeteness (if that is a word)

In JustinWorld, 'black' = 'odd', apparently. Also, a girly speech from a girly girl - kiddies and smiles instead of properly manly bombs and threats of nukular war.

Very unpatriotic. And effete.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 05:36:34 AM EST
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what did he want? stories of Obama torturing puppies as a child?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 05:52:38 AM EST
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Knowing Justin Webb first hand I can promise you that he is totally a creature of the WaPo Republican world view. His idea of working class America is a the republican redneck NASCAR version, he goes to places where he meets bubba and hears bubba's opinions. It's not that these are not authentic americans, but they are the only sort he can find.

He was okay as a newsreader, but as a neutral in-depth journalist he fails on every count.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 06:01:06 AM EST
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I'm getting very tired of the laziness fo British journalists repeating every cheap slagging off of the Democrats from the beltway tradmed.

I epxect it form the BBC as I have so little respect for the individuals involved, but I really want better from the Independent and the Gaurdian and I'm not getting it. Thank Dog for the internet or I'd be sure McCain was winning.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 06:15:21 AM EST
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