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Ukraine has become a hostage in the war waged by Russia. This has prompted Ukrainian authorities and all our people, including those living in the Crimea, to ponder the dangers emanating from the fact that the Russian Black Sea fleet is based on our territory
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This conflict has proved once again that the best means of ensuring the national security of Ukraine and other countries is to participate in the collective security system of free democratic nations, exemplified today by Nato. In accordance with national legislation and its foreign policy priorities, Ukraine will continue following the path of Euro-Atlantic integration. This is the path of democracy, freedom and independence.

I hope there are wiser heads in NATO to realise this is really not a good idea

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 05:29:56 AM EST
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You can understand why HE wants to secure Ukraine's independence from Russia.  But that does not mean it is in Europe's interest to pursue a confrontational approach to Russia.

Vote McCain for war without gain
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 08:13:03 AM EST
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It doesn't mean that a majority of the Ukrainian people want NATO membership, or a confrontation with Russia, either. See the Party of the Regions...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 08:30:29 AM EST
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I'm  aware he leads the pro-western party  although I get conflicting figures as to what % of Ukraine supports closer ties to Moscow

Vote McCain for war without gain
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 08:37:15 AM EST
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Well, the Party of the Regions is "Pro-Russia", it's the largest party by national vote (about 1/3) in the last two parliamentary elections, and its vote distribution looks like

So scaring people with the fact that Crimea hosts the Russian fleet may not work all that well in Crimea itself...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 08:45:00 AM EST
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Seems to me he is playing with fire.  And if he thinks Nato is going to come to his aid if Russia invades or takes the Crimea he is crazy.   I know he suspects Russia tried to poison him and so it is understandable he should be anti-Russian.   But is he acting in the Ukraine's best interest?

Vote McCain for war without gain
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 08:49:16 AM EST
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PS - many thanks

Vote McCain for war without gain
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 08:55:37 AM EST
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