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Russia warns NATO over build-up of warships in Black Sea
Russia's military says it is bewildered by the build-up of NATO's naval force in the Black Sea - and scoffed at claims the warships were delivering humanitarian aid. Deputy Chief of the Russian General Staff, Colonel General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, told a media briefing that there are currently ten NATO warships with cruise missiles in the area, and eight more are expected to arrive there shortly.

"These ships are very seriously armed," Nogovitsyn said. "As far as cruise missiles are concerned, they are strategic arms and have a range of 2,500 km. The Black Sea is just a pool for them."

The Colonel General added it's very hard to believe these ships have arrived just to bring humanitarian aid.


What they are up to...?
by vbo on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 07:09:36 PM EST
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What are they up to ?

Short answer : Being stupid in an infantile sandpit kind of way.

Long answer : Is the above but in a lot of geo-political weasel words

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Aug 27th, 2008 at 05:28:00 AM EST
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Wikipedia: Recent Developments on the Black Sea Fleet
Russia mobilized part of the fleet toward Georgia's rebel Abkhazia region. "We have been notified that Russia has plans to move elements of its Black Sea fleet to Abkhazia, to Ochamchira, ostensibly to protect their civilians ... a couple of cruisers, or large scale naval vessels," said the official, asking to remaining anonymous. Recently, in a skirmish with the Georgian Navy, the Russian Ministry of Defence claimed that this part of the fleet was attacked by a Georgian missile boat, which the Black Sea fleet sunk. The other Georgian ships accompanying the sunken vessel retreated soon afterwards. According to some reports, the cruiser Moskva, flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, was damaged in the engagement. As the of result the Georgia-Russia conflict, Ukraine has announced that the Black Sea Fleet will need permission to cross the Ukrainian border and go to Sevastopol, its base. In return, Russia has stated that the commander of the Black Sea Fleet is the President of the Russian Federation and that Ukrainian laws do not apply to what happens to the Black Sea Fleet.
(My emphasis)

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Aug 27th, 2008 at 05:44:02 AM EST
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that's gonna be interesting as, according to your map yesterday, the Crimea is very pro-russian and the primary overland russian access to it is territory where the population is very pro-russian.

But this is more about the domestic politics of the Ukraine. Yushchenko is losing his grip on the reins of power and so is trying to stir up NATO and the EU to come to his aid. This gesture will make things worse for him, not better.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Aug 27th, 2008 at 06:40:01 AM EST
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by det on Wed Aug 27th, 2008 at 07:27:31 AM EST
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UNIAN: UK Foreign Secretary to arrive in Kyiv to create coalition against Russia (26 August 2008)
Britain's Foreign Secretary David Miliband on Tuesday rejected Russia`s recognition of two breakaway regions of Georgia and called for an international coalition to counter it, according to Reuters.

"Today`s announcement by President (Dmitry) Medvedev that Russia will recognise South Ossetia and Abkhazia is unjustifiable and unacceptable," Miliband said in a statement.

"I am holding talks today with international partners and will be visiting Ukraine tomorrow to ensure the widest possible coalition against Russian aggression in Georgia," he added.



A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Aug 27th, 2008 at 05:48:38 AM EST
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