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Russia tests intercontinental missile in Kamchatka
Russia has successfully tested an intercontinental ballistic missile. The country's Defence Ministry has reported that it hit the target on the testing ground in the far eastern region of Kamchatka.

The Ministry claims the weapon is capable of bypassing the most advanced missile defence systems.

Although it has been on stand-by for 21 years, the Ministry said the weapon has shown it can effectively hit high-security facilities.


Let the show begin...

 

by vbo on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 at 08:55:46 PM EST
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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2008/08/russia-fears-an.html#more

A war that you win cancels any other bad action of your doing. In the same way, by losing one, all the good things worked by you before become vain. (Niccolo Machiavelli)

How close are we to a catastrophe...?

by vbo on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 at 10:40:43 PM EST
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[vbo's Crystal Ball of Doom™ Technology]

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 02:25:57 AM EST
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I don't know why people (us) are so on ease...
Now when I think about it I remember how for probably about 6 months or more after the conflicts started in ex YU we simply couldn't believe what's happening and we tended to rather go about our own lives then start to panic. Watching news was more like watching a movie...We definitely thought that it's going to eventually stop prior to the point where it will turn in to the catastrophe. I had a feeling that people felt about it most like about football match. Us vs. them...
Later I met a Serbian woman from Sarajevo that after Karadzic's bombardment of Sarajevo started did not leave the city (all though they arranged for their two daughters to leave for Belgrade). They lived with a daily bombardment and simply couldn't believe what's happening. She told me how she thought: "It must stop in September; the school is starting in September". Talking about normal way of thinking that is resilient no matter what...
We in Serbia only realized how serious it is when they started to come and take our husbands, sons, nephews to the Army and sent them to front in Croatia.
Also me and my husband opposed Milosevic and his doing from the beginning but other people were not so sure what to think. State TV was talking one thing , traces of "free" media ( financed by west) were talking the opposite...reality was more and more gloomy and things progressed to the absurd point where some of  the people were not able to further support the leader who is taking us to the abyss but on the other hand they couldn't believe this is happening. I remember a friend who was supportive of Milosevic being one of the editors of State TV news when confronted with absurdity of our situation told us : "I hope Milosevic knows what he is doing...he must know something we don't know..."
It happened so that Milosevic did not have any hidden agenda or agreement that would save Serbia.
I am afraid we are now in the same situation. As things deteriorate daily we can't believe that nuclear war is possible...we do believe that THEY (leaders on both sides) know what they are doing and that they will after some show of power come to some agreement and save the world of nuclear catastrophe. But is it so???
by vbo on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 02:37:05 AM EST
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he must know something we don't know...

That must be the single most common answer when any government is criticised. I certainly encountered it when criticising Bush in the US in 2001-4.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 02:41:07 AM EST
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Yes, you're right. we have no reason to feel at ease. Not because our leaders must know something we don't, I long ceased to believe they know much of anything beyond the convenient lies they're fed by vested interests.

But that's the problem. When you have belligerent people on both sides, who can make them stop ? These are people who rule by bluster, by bullying, by fear. They have a psychological compulsion to make the other guy feel bad. when they are in charge of a country and its military that's a bad combination.

Putin and Medvedev might or might not fill that profile, but Bush, cheney and McCain certainly do. Now we are in a situation where the russians cannot back down without losing face and Cheney feels he can make good things happen for McCain by chasing the ruskies back to moscow, so he's not gonna stop.

Of course they show off their weapons, set off their silly fire-crackers, send their little boats to make noises in the Black sea. That's how it's done in their infantile goatish playgorund world of bashing heads.

So, am I at ease ? No. Can I do anything about it ? No, there is literally nothing we can do about it. Our leaders have entirely insulated themselves from reason and rationality. So there's no point getting uptight about it.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 06:12:04 AM EST
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Probably even capable of hitting Poland all the way from Russia--unlike the Iranian ones...
by asdf on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 at 11:01:40 PM EST
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