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With profound gratitude and great humility, I accept your nomination for the presidency of the United States.

Orange reaction - and the crowd goes wild...

Daily Kos: Text of Obama's Acceptance Speech

Update by brownsox: I have never seen Barack Obama give a better speech. I have never seen anyone give a better political speech.

Update by MissLaura: A friend reports that CNN didn't even break in over the crowd shots at the ending immediately as would be normal practice. That's a sign something extraordinary happened.

BBC reader reactions (perhaps with some freeping?)

BBC NEWS | Have Your Say | Obama speech: Your views

What an inspiring speech! It as a speech of hope. America is suffering under the yoke of the Bush Admin. It will be a great day for not only America but the world, when he takes the oath of office.

Mr Vassmer

Empty rhetoric...how many times will people honestly believe he will "break US dependence on foreign oil", "Unite the country", "Save Social Security"...etc, he never actually says how he plans to accomplish those goals. How is he going to afford everything he's promising?

Obama and many of his more cult like supporters are going to have a rude awakening when they discover that not everybody is going to become leftist liberals because he talks about "change".

Mike Cuz, Sacramento, United States

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 at 11:33:20 PM EST
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Like a true madman, i stayed up 'til after 5AM to watch the speech.  It was powerful, and hit many high notes.  But it also included many middle-of-the-road sops to centrist independents.

His energy policy left me bland.  He did say that drilling was just a temporary measure, and that there would be vast support for renewables.  But he also said he supports an increase of safe nuclear power.  Safe nuclear power is not going to happen in a nation with grandma peace activists on no-fly lists.  His comments on Georgia indicate he does seem to have learned that he'd best moderate his comments about Russia, which he'll have to mouth until he gets the win, because it will be such a central part of McCain's campaign shit.

I won't have any problem voting for him, but like many national votes in amurka, it will be with the eyes of reality open.  

What impressed me the most was his life's path, and how he worked that into who he is as a politician.  Amurka could do far worse than this (first African-American)  President of the Harvard Law Review, who achieved that pulling himself up from relative poverty.  That's far more encouraging than anything currently on the horizon, or from the past post-Carter decades.

I expect his triangulation comes a bit more from the heart than that of the Clinton dynasty, and this will be a strong plus.  That he will have to govern during the end of empire and financial meltdown will be very, very hard.  But there's probably no one better equipped on the current scene.

(I wish Gore hadn't been fast on his points, as he gave a very detailed policy speech leading up to Obama.  It wasn't as effective as possible, but perhaps as necessary.)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 05:46:47 AM EST
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I don't get the ZOMG!!!!1!!!! BEST SPEECH EVAH!!!! hyperbole. It was certainly a McCain-is-toast speech, but from a progressive POV there was a whole lot of pandering going on.

E.g. He followed up a promise to reduce dependency on foreign oil with a nice story about cars for everyone! Built in the US! For everyone! Not so much about making travel and city design saner and - oh dear - maybe even more European.

Also - clean coal? What is clean coal?

Considering the rest was all dare-to-dream, I thought the dreams weren't all that daring. And the foreign policy lines were downright scary and hawkish. He's smart enough to make negotiations with Putin, er, Medvedev, far more interesting than the clown show the Bush team have turned them into, but he also sounds too ideologically blinkered and too much of an exceptionalist to be good at effective realpolitik.

Still he is who he is, and while he's not Mr Aggressive Progressive, he's moving in a better direction.

The real enemy from now on won't be McCain, it's going to be the various corporate machines and their Washington puppets, who are going to be trying very hard to push the policy agenda back towards the right, even after a likely Dem win.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 06:18:38 AM EST
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Why is nobody talking about his prominent promise to cut taxes?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 06:21:21 AM EST
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Perhaps because he's not cutting taxes for the right people?

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 06:37:54 AM EST
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Actually several speakers at the DNC mentioned that Obama would cut taxes for 95% of all people.

But I'm not sure if Migeru wanted to put that as a plus. If lying wouldn't be more effective in a campaign than telling the truth, anybody who cuts taxes, would have to explain, where to cut expenditures, too. Of course McCain's proposals are complete fantasy without any connection to reality, but when Obama doesn't want to cut military spending, and this is difficult, when he wants to escalate Afghanistan, he needs more tax income.

  • The deficit of the unified budget will soon narrow the gap with the deficit of the general budget - so no more payroll tax support for the general budget
  • A significant portion of the costs of the Iraq war are health care costs for veterans, equipment must be replaced
  • the debt to GDP ratio rose in the last 8 years in the US, so Obama has to deal with higher interest payments
  • Obama wants to invest into renewable energies, improve the infrastructure of America, and pay health insurance benefits from taxes
  • the states and communities are as well in fiscal trouble, for paying for things like public education as well the federal wallet might be tapped
  • the price of oil may go up again in the next years. Even a fairly aggressive plan - an extreme ambicious plan is not in the books - would not reduce foreign oil depenedency fast enough, to not making that a drag on the economy, especially given that the gulf prefers to spend its money in Europe and China instead of the US of A

More over the share of all taxes as part of the GDP is quite a bit smaller in the US than in most EU states. So, if one really doesn't want to reduce spending (reducing the military budget would be the top priority for me), it doesn't seem to be absurd to pay for the expenditures by increasing the tax rate.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers
by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 10:34:22 AM EST
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Exactly. But if he told the truth, he wouldn't get elected. His policies are much better than McCain's (the figures I've seen for McCain include an even bigger deficit), but that's about it. All we can do is hope that he'll do (or be forced to do) relatively reasonable things once in office.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 10:43:24 AM EST
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No, I didn't want to point it out as a plus.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 10:47:39 AM EST
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Please note that the comparative tax proposals above are only showing the effects of tax rate changes for income tax.  Obama is proposing closing tax loopholes.  Were that done effectively it could raise the effective rates on upper brackets and corporations much more.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 12:41:47 PM EST
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Often amazed by how little TBG knows about energy.  Clean coal is coal that is cleaner, washed or something, usually with Dr. Bronner's soap before it's burned.

Some coal is cleaned at the source, before it's burned, as when a mountain top is cleanly stripped of its top.  The part that is not cleaned is washed down into former stream beds, where the gentle water that used to flow there purifies the silt into paradisical farm lands where even farmer's wives in gingham dresses can grow gardens of organic coal potatoes.

What little dirt remains on washed coal is then burned, with some leaking into the atmosphere.  But it does not damage, as it is heavier than air, and falls down either in the northeastern forests and lakes, or in the chasms of the Grand Canyon, so it doesn't affect people directly (except for the ones who continue to breathe.)

Clean coal also protects people from being overly stunned by the beauty of the Grand Canyon, as they don't have to be awed by a view of the other side anymore.

Go Barack "Energy is My Middle Name" Obama!

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 07:06:06 AM EST
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Thank you for the clarity.
by afox (afox at rockgardener dott com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 09:14:22 AM EST
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I'd give it a B on substance -- generally pretty good but inevitably with some bullshit pandering and toughguyism thrown in -- and an A on delivery.

Especially as the delivery went during the portions on Iraq.  A key difference between Kerry and Obama that I picked up on was that Kerry had to continuously insist that he was strong enough to be president.  It came across as whiny and weak for Kerry.  Obama went straight at it, and the delivery allowed him to assume away McCain's bullshit narrative ("Of course he's wrong and I'm right, you asshats").

That's where being a good orator matters.

He framed the election very well, and the funny thing is it turns out that the one person in Denver who knew how to hit McCain in a solid way turned out to be...Obama.

I liked the economics portions, especially hitting the Reps on supply-side economics and their Protestant work ethic horseshit:

For over two decades, he's subscribed to that old, discredited Republican philosophy - give more and more to those with the most and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else. In Washington, they call this the Ownership Society, but what it really means is - you're on your own. Out of work? Tough luck. No health care? The market will fix it. Born into poverty? Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps - even if you don't have boots. You're on your own.

Certainly it could have been a better speech.  But I think it probably won him some votes.  On the whole, I think we got out of this convention more than what we needed to get out of it.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 09:09:38 AM EST
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well-parsed, drew.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 04:45:43 PM EST
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