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by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 at 04:17:18 PM EST

I have not watched it (a bit hard on dialup).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 at 06:40:30 PM EST
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A woman after my own heart!  The vulgarity she declined to use regarding the "New Jack 2" oil field is the very one I use to describe the kind of politics we are practicing in Georgia and elsewhere.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 at 09:08:39 PM EST
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A biblical tragedy in the Sea of Galilee - Middle East, World - The Independent
An arid country, Israel relies on the waters where Jesus sailed to irrigate its farmland and supply its homes. But now the lake is drying up - and only drastic action will save it

The 2,000-year-old fishing boat of Galilee in which, the story goes, Jesus may have sailed, is one of the most precious ancient treasures in Israel.

The vessel, which draws thousands of tourists to a kibbutz in Ginosar, was discovered by chance in 1986 when the sea level dropped dramatically because of a severe drought.

"This year it is actually worse. I have been here 54 years and I have never seen the water so low, the situation so bad," said Haim Binstock, an expert on the boat in the museum where it is kept. "I don't think the outside world realises just how dangerous the situation is, not just for Israel but for the whole region."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 01:43:35 AM EST
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It's a semi-arid area that is farmed in an extremely stupid way. Basically a load of europeans farming like they're in a wet temperate climate, so they irrigate. Anybody want to know why Iraq is a desert ?? Panhandle dustbowl in S USA ?? Exact same thing.

didn't somebody here highlight a video of proper farming technique in that desert last year ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 06:26:00 AM EST
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Helen, the Islamic empire were world leaders in irrigation techniques for a reason.

In semiarid areas you irrigate. See Mesopotamia, the "Fertile Crescent", the lower Nile and, why, yes, Al Andalus.

It's not about stupid Europeans though they may be stupidly growing wet temperate crops...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 06:29:41 AM EST
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I'm talking about Israel. That's emphatically not the islamic world and the draining of the Sea of Galilee is absolutely about stupid europeans growing wet temperate crops.

the Fertile Crescent is a historical fact. It's where civilisation emerged and way back then it's where farming devleoped. But then it received rainfall.

Then, when the climate changed 6,500 odd years ago everything went to shit down there cos it stopped raining. Yes, they learnt to irrigate, but didn't understand the process of salinification and so gradually the land became unusable and the soil blew away, leaving dry sand.

Also, as the land became drier, the irrigation channels got longer and longer. Satellite photos reveal how new channels were dug to bring in water from further and further away.

But it was hopeless. You can farm in arid regions so long as you stay in areas of marshland that flood. But the "fertile crescent hasn't flooded in thousands of years. That's why it's a desert.

And somebody here posted a video last year showing the proper way to farm in that region. and it ain't the way the israelis do it.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 08:16:34 AM EST
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The problem in the fertile crescent wasn't only lack of rain ; the original agriculture techniques involved leaving the land fallows for a dozen years, essentially letting the forest regrow before burning it and cultivating it. As population densities increased, the forest couldn't find the time to regrow - and thus the land started blowing away, replaced by sands. The forests could hold water for quite some time ; the baren lands they gave way to couldn't.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 08:25:50 AM EST
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I'm talking about Israel. That's emphatically not the islamic world

Where is Palestine, then?

But yes, draining the Galilee sea would be a stupid irrigation technique in any case.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 10:55:34 AM EST
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Global Cooling: Can Carbon Dioxide Be Turned to Concrete? - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

Engineers are constantly coming up with new ways to dispose of greenhouse gases. The latest idea is to hide carbon dioxide exhaust in cement. The method could revolutionize one of the most carbon-intensive industries in the world.

Concrete analysis in a Düsseldorf laboratory: "Lots of things can be tested in an aquarium." Vinod Khosla has a lot of money, and he wants to put it to good use, which explains his Silicon Valley nickname, "Angel Investor." The 53-year-old Indian has already invested $450 million (€290 million) of his personal fortune in new technologies to save mankind and the planet.

A little more than a year ago, Khosla received an e-mail. What it contained, in its 12 lines of text, was exactly the sort of thing this immensely wealthy philanthropist likes to read.

"I have an idea for a sustainable cement," Brent Constantz, a chemistry professor, wrote. His idea was to convert the carbon dioxide emissions from a power plant into cement, thereby rendering the gas harmless.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 01:45:00 AM EST
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Global Cooling: Can Carbon Dioxide Be Turned to Concrete? - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News
The concrete industry produces more than two billion tons of cement worldwide each year. In doing so, it releases 5 percent of the carbon dioxide emitted worldwide, making it the third-largest single producer of the greenhouse gas. The industry's large carbon footprint is a result of energy-intensive production processes, which include temperatures of 1450 degrees Celsius (2642 degrees Fahrenheit) to bake the raw materials and the use of electric motors to pulverize the resulting cement bricks.

How much energy for a brick - always a question of which I wanted to hunt down the answer...

Sounds like the proposed method has potential, tweaking with the speed up a natural process. I wonder if dissolved magnesium/calcium in the water will not become a limiting factor at some point, though.

by Nomad on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 05:16:27 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Europe | Italy police probe monastery raid

Italian police are investigating a brutal attack on four Franciscan friars in a monastery in northern Italy.

Italian media are comparing Tuesday's attack, at the San Colombano Belmonte monastery near Turin, to the violence in the story A Clockwork Orange.

Three or four hooded attackers entered the monastery and bound and gagged the friars, the oldest of whom was 86.

One managed to raise the alarm two hours later, when he regained consciousness after being beaten.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 01:50:20 AM EST
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newsobserver.com | Bayer on defensive in bee deaths
Bayer on defensive in bee deaths German authorities look into allegation that RTP maker's pesticide harms environment

Sabine Vollmer, Staff Writer

Bayer CropScience is facing scrutiny because of the effect one of its best-selling pesticides has had on honeybees.

A German prosecutor is investigating Werner Wenning, Bayer's chairman, and Friedrich Berschauer, the head of Bayer CropScience, after critics alleged that they knowingly polluted the environment.

The investigation was triggered by an Aug. 13 complaint filed by German beekeepers and consumer protection advocates, a Coalition against Bayer Dangers spokesman, Philipp Mimkes, said Monday.

The complaint is part of efforts by groups on both sides of the Atlantic to determine how much Bayer CropScience knows about the part that clothianidin may have played in the death of millions of honeybees.

Bayer CropScience, which has its U.S. headquarters in Research Triangle Park, said field studies have shown that bees' exposure to the pesticide is minimal or nonexistent if the chemical is used properly.

Clothianidin and related pesticides generated about $1 billion of Bayer CropScience's $8.6 billion in global sales last year. The coalition is demanding that the company withdraw all of the pesticides.

"We're suspecting that Bayer submitted flawed studies to play down the risks of pesticide residues in treated plants," said Harro Schultze, the coalition's attorney.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 at 06:31:54 AM EST
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