Op-Ed Columnist - Will Russia Get Away With It? - Op-Ed - NYTimes.com
When the "civilized world" expostulated with Russia about Georgia in 1924, the Soviet regime was still weak. In Germany, Hitler was in jail. Only 16 years later, Britain stood virtually alone against a Nazi-Soviet axis. Is it not true today, as it was in the 1920s and '30s, that delay and irresolution on the part of the democracies simply invite future threats and graver dangers?
They will apply this worn-out drek to any situation, any time, to justify warmongering.
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I want to comment on this.
Is Kristol aware, that the Nazis and the Soviets were enemies, not allies? Is he aware, that the Soviet Union had ~ 300 times as many losses in WW II than the US?
And to his appeasement indications. What would have happened, if GB would have declared war on Germany, instead of appeasing? Isn't it possible, that the fascists and the democratic countries would have fought war until complete exhaustion, and then the Soviets take over all of Europe? We don't know, but isn't it possible, that Chamberlain rescued the free world, by letting the biests attack each other instead of fighting them both?
Maybe some historic more educated people can comment on that. Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den MenschenVolker Pispers
Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den MenschenVolker Pispers
Anyone? Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
They aren't arguing. They are advertising. And advertisement works by repetition, endless repetition. One small screwup - even a major screwup like this one - is as unimportant as a faulty transmission of a soap ad. There are thousands of other repetitions to fall back on.
Historical insight (or basic intelligence, for that matter) isn't necessary to spew talking points, and they have better uses for the educated, intelligent cadre, so the idiots get to go on TV.
Between Fall Weiss (Poland - fall 1939) and Operation Barbarossa (USSR - summer 1941), the USSR and Nazi Germany were indeed the next best thing to allied. Of course, just three years earlier, the USSR had been allied to France... And indeed the USSR ended up fighting and defeating Nazi Germany (the British and American effort in the European theatre was... underwhelming, and France had been effectively knocked out in the fall of 1940).
So Kristol is technically correct when he says that there was a Soviet-German alliance in 1940. But incredibly disingenuous at the same time.
And calling it a Nazi-Soviet Axis is the next best thing to an outright lie. The Axis in Europe was the vertical line between Rome and Berlin (AFAIK, Mussolini was the first to use the term Rome-Berlin Axis publicly in a speech in (IIRC) 1937 - the idea was that all of Europe would "revolve around the Axis" between Berlin and Rome). Precisely how Japan got into the Axis is unclear to me, but it's probably a combination of the fact that they were in the Anti-Comintern Pact and the fact that they were "not in the Allies."
But of course, people like Kristol would probably really rather forget the Italian fascists, considering how much the Americans cooperated with them in the postwar years...
