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Housing loans also have a huge subsidy on the income tax side. Since mortgage interest is deductable, and since at the start of a mortgage almost all of the payment is interest, you get a 20% or so--depending on tax bracket--handout. The result of this is the destruction of the rental marketplace, where only the people who are so abjectly poor (i.e. no regular job at all) are customers.

Similarly, government support for nuclear power reduces the marginal cost of new energy sources. We would be better off if the current subsidies for oil and nuclear power were eliminated.

by asdf on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 09:12:02 AM EST
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Do you know details? It seems to me, that mortgage interest payment deductability is an incentive never to pay down the principal. I don't know about taxation of stock gains in the US, but if there would be similar rules as are in place up to this year in Germany, with this interest deductability it would be reasonable never to pay down, but instead buying stocks.
One can call this speculating with borrowed money. A frame of laws, which incentives this is not exactly what I would call reasonable...

Or is "and since at the start of a mortgage almost all of the payment is interest," a sign, that there are still good reasons to pay down?

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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 at 12:35:48 PM EST
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I think asdf is referring to a standard repayment mortgage, where each month's payment contains an element to pay off interest and another to pay off principal with the relative ratios of the interest-element and the principal-element gradually changing as you progress through the lifetime of the instrument - ie. practically 100% interest-element at the start to practically 100% principal-element at the end.

If you have an interest-only mortgage, then this incentive does indeed exist (assuming that interest-only loans are tax-deductible of course - I don't know what the situation is Stateside, but the UK no longer gives tax relief for any kind of mortgage interest). It's balanced by the need to have a chunk of ready cash available to pay off the principal at the point  when the mortgage reaches term of course.

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by silburnl on Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:44:19 AM EST
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Yes, thank you, that was the case I was referring to.

Over here, most mortgages are fixed payment for the entire term, typically 30 years. "Creative" mortgages have all sorts of variations, including several types where your payment can balloon up after a few years. These tend to be the ones that get people into trouble.

by asdf on Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 at 09:45:38 PM EST
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