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It doesn't appear to be price sensitive behaviour.  There is always cheap booze for those determined enough to drink filth. And the worst behaviour rarely happens around pubs that serve cheap high quality beer, rather they want high priced crap lager to swill by the bucket.

And nbody seems able to provide an epxlanation as to why the French, with much lower booze prices, don't exhibit the same behaviour. Aside from exploring cultural differences that don't fit the comforting Brits-rule tabloid preference.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:14:42 PM EST
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Increase the tax as required to prevent brewers and bottlers from being able to profit from glorifying and validating this sort of destructive behavior.  If the brewer had to pay a 300% tax on advertising, it might not affect the boozer so much as the behavior of the brewer.  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:32:18 PM EST
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It's not like smoking.  Smoking might give you a nice feeling briefly, but it's not the fun intoxication that getting drunk provides.  If you smoke enough to actually get high, you're probably going to regret it.  But with booze, you could make the tax 500% (hell, you could ban advertising on it), and people are still going to get tanked and do stupid shit, because people know alcohol has that effect, and many like to get tanked and happen to do stupid shit once tanked.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:42:32 PM EST
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I imagine that would be extremely easy to evade, they'd just change the focus of what is being advertised.

F'r instance, there are rules about how much beer is served in a glass and there is a constant war of attrition between brewers and consumers about this. One more ingenious suggestion by one brewer was that they weren't selling you a pint of beer, they were selling you a leisure experience.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:42:49 PM EST
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I am convinced such a tax could be implemented, however, not under the current US campaign finance system.  A large loophole would certainly be inserted.  It is the same problem with every legislative attempt to reduce tax  "avoidance" by the upper income brackets--convincing >50% of legislators to simultaneously bite the hands that feed them.  Tall order, but it would be a wonderful spectacle!

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 01:04:51 PM EST
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From the point of view of financing vomit cleanup/riot control (not to mention healthcare, liver treatments etc.) - all the better that it's not price sensitive behaviour...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:51:58 PM EST
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One could make a good argument that massive taxation of  beer advertising, corporate profits derived from beer sales, etc. is more socially responsible than legalizing gambling.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 at 01:09:15 PM EST
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And nbody seems able to provide an epxlanation as to why the French, with much lower booze prices, don't exhibit the same behaviour.

The secret is simple: food. Good food. And talking about food.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 06:10:32 PM EST
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The secret is simple: food. Good food. And talking about food.

Fixed.  It's not that they lack food.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 06:16:27 PM EST
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even bad food will help - as long as you take it at the same time as drinking. The problem is drinking and not eating.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 06:28:13 PM EST
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