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As I mentioned this morning, it's really been going on a long time, but hopefully as the era of cheap flights draws to a close we'll stop trashing the mediterranean.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 12:32:15 PM EST
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But Britons will continue trashing the UK.

Living in Liverpool it is impressive how people behave either while drunk (which happens a lot from the perspective of most European countries, save maybe Scandinavia) or when there are no rules to follow.

Queuing is my favorite:
When there is a clear queue (i.e. rule) to follow, everybody behaves perfectly, but when people are either drunk or there is no clear rule, its every (wo)men for (him/her)self. Buying at M&S is easy, getting a drink at a pub (or an hamburger at McD at 2am in the morning) is almost impossible unless you almost smack someone.

I have never seen such an amount of uncivilized behavior elsewhere.

I think England (whole UK?) is where the dutch concept of "social controle" is really to be seen: people behave correctly because of social pressure only, not because it is best to do so. When the social pressure is off, then it is dog eat dog mentality that is probably the hallmark of the anglo-disease.

At the end of the day this is probably another symptom of the anglo-disease: pervasive "dog eat dog" mentality. The only brakes are social control and the attached political correctness (which are, BTW, a disaster to democracy and freedom of thinking, but that is an other issue).

by t-------------- on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 01:44:09 PM EST
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Buying at M&S is easy, getting a drink at a pub (or an hamburger at McD at 2am in the morning) is almost impossible unless you almost smack someone.

Breaking bottles over people's heads was the custom in Notts.  I guess Brits are more civilized in Liverpool.

There's a reason The Tragedy of the Commons takes place in Britain.  A good chunk of the country doesn't grok the whole concept of upkeep.  I remarked to my friends over there that if rural Southerners in America were forced to live in townhouses (the horror) and watch gay tv shows for a few hours per day, they'd be Brits.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:20:22 PM EST
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that's a horrible thing to say about rural southerners

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:24:19 PM EST
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The possibility of living in townhouses?

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:25:51 PM EST
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being brits, oh wilfully obtuse one.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:37:20 PM EST
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I try.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:47:06 PM EST
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Yes, you're very trying.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:01:13 PM EST
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Oh pssshhhh, you miss me.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:04:06 PM EST
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but my aim is improving

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:07:32 PM EST
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I rather think you should avoid things requiring aim.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:12:41 PM EST
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Why ? Am I getting close ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:15:20 PM EST
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No, hence the comment.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:22:05 PM EST
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Just getting the range

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:53:30 PM EST
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If you say so.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 04:42:41 PM EST
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...oh wilfully obtuse one.

With foresight and intent he has an angle greater than 90° and less than 180°?

by ATinNM on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:08:41 PM EST
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Ah, you've read my resume.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:13:11 PM EST
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  1. Liverpool... North of England ET Meet?

  2. Pubs are actually incredibly ritualised places. Full of social control (at least in between the fights):

http://www.sirc.org/publik/pub.html
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 02:49:32 PM EST
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Manchester might be more accessible.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:01:48 PM EST
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is Manchester more easily accessible than Liverpool?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:26:58 PM EST
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Either will be easily accessible from my new location.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 at 03:26:12 PM EST
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