European Tribune - Comments - European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch

European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 4. September | 123 comments (123 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Boils at -23C? Isn't that going to make storage, transport and tanking only slightly less interesting than for hydrogen?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:19:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Brilliant (none / 1)

250 K boiling point against 20K boiling point. Put in the fact, that cooling becomes more difficult the cooler you want it, and that heating up is proportional to the difference with the environemt - in one case ~50K on a hot day in the other ~ 250K with frost.

This is a dimension different.

Lich King/Caribou Barbie 08
Pain brings Katharsis

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:38:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Brilliant (4.00 / 2)

The way Francois in Paris put it is

Its handling is similar to LPG and it can be stored as a liquid in low pressure tanks. Big difference with methane (very high pressures or cryo).

Hydrogen also requires "very high pressures or cryo". Think butane cans...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:41:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Brilliant (none / 0)

doesn't it seep through any container trying to hold it too?

don't the cars run off some kind of hydrogen pellets?

The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. Chinese Proverb.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 04:08:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 4. September | 123 comments (123 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

. Home
. About
. Contact
. New User Guide
. FAQ
. Search
. Search (Google)
. Archives (Wiki)
Art, Economics, Energy, Environment, EU Politics, Mech & Tech, By Country

Username:
Password:

. Make a new account
. Reset password

Recommended Diaries

The Puritan Edge
by rg - Nov 20
86 comments

Computational simulations in science
by tiagoantao - Nov 20
12 comments

Help oppose Sarko's three strike nonsense
by nicta - Nov 20
6 comments

The Purpose of Education
by rdf - Nov 20
3 comments

Early Friday Photography Blog No. 62
by LEP - Nov 20
26 comments

LQD: The real orgasmic Puritans
by Ted Welch - Nov 20
8 comments

So I met Bill McKibben
by SacredCowTipper - Nov 20
3 comments

LQD: Geoengineering Ranked
by nanne - Nov 21
32 comments

Recent Diaries

LQD: Geoengineering Ranked
by nanne - Nov 21
16 comments

Computational simulations in science
by tiagoantao - Nov 20
6 comments

LQD: The real orgasmic Puritans
by Ted Welch - Nov 20
4 comments

Help oppose Sarko's three strike nonsense
by nicta - Nov 20
3 comments

The Purpose of Education
by rdf - Nov 20
3 comments

Early Friday Photography Blog No. 62
by LEP - Nov 20
13 comments

The Puritan Edge
by rg - Nov 20
43 comments

So I met Bill McKibben
by SacredCowTipper - Nov 20
3 comments

Do you believe in human-induced climate change?
by Starvid - Nov 19
25 comments

Dershowitz boasts he kept Carter off DNC podium
by shergald - Nov 19
10 comments

A Second Lisbon Vote to be announced shortly?
by Frank Schnittger - Nov 19
127 comments

jitter noise rumble
by emilmoller - Nov 19
9 comments

The buzz about Hillary Clinton...Updated X2
by papicek - Nov 18
11 comments

Nader's grovelling to AIPAC letter to Obama
by shergald - Nov 18
4 comments

Obama in the UK ?
by Helen - Nov 17
26 comments

The Made-Men of the NuLab Project
by Helen - Nov 17
18 comments

Agriculture without Fossil Fuels
by SacredCowTipper - Nov 17
1 comment

Is Ideology Dead ?...
by ValentinD - Nov 16
285 comments

Yes I had to Delete My last one
by Lasthorseman - Nov 16
22 comments

America could learn something from those Green Europeans
by jamess - Nov 16
11 comments

More Diaries...

Debates

Campaigns

Occasional Series