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European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 4. September | 123 comments (123 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Hydrogen is a very dumb choice of synthetic fuel in any event (gaseous and very flammable - needs to be stored under pressure or super-cooled). How about Dimethyl Ether?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 08:53:41 AM EST
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Boils at -23C? Isn't that going to make storage, transport and tanking only slightly less interesting than for hydrogen?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:19:00 PM EST
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250 K boiling point against 20K boiling point. Put in the fact, that cooling becomes more difficult the cooler you want it, and that heating up is proportional to the difference with the environemt - in one case ~50K on a hot day in the other ~ 250K with frost.

This is a dimension different.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:38:38 PM EST
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The way Francois in Paris put it is

Its handling is similar to LPG and it can be stored as a liquid in low pressure tanks. Big difference with methane (very high pressures or cryo).

Hydrogen also requires "very high pressures or cryo". Think butane cans...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 12:41:45 PM EST
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doesn't it seep through any container trying to hold it too?

don't the cars run off some kind of hydrogen pellets?

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 at 04:08:06 PM EST
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